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How's it working out for IAM and TWU represented workers now?
The twu just spit in your face!
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How's it working out for IAM and TWU represented workers now?
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- #122
Let me explain this once again, America West had the contract with Aeroman, before the merger, America West didnt do their own heavy checks in-house.
US and HP were one company in 2009, America West had existing contracts with MROs, US got the ability to farmout in Chapter 11 and the narrow bodies that werent done in-house on the US east side went to ST Mobile Aerospace in AL.
So US honored the existing contracts that HP had with Aeroman and the merged company did not have the capacity to bring all the West planes in-house, and at the time US and HP had two different maintenance programs, one for east and one for west, and had to get FAA approval to transition the west planes onto the east maintenance program.
Ok, so this US Airways A/C N444US pictured in 2006 here.
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5722755&nseq=0
Had this well known problem in 2009.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113942431
Was originally an America West plane painted in 2006 at the time of the merger?
Here is one of it in 2003. Still painted in US Airways colors.
http://www.jetphotos...d=90666&nseq=27
You still say US Airways were not at Aeroman in 2009?
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- #126
And that picture is from FLL, not Aeroman.
Keep trying.
US didnt get the right to outsource east planes until 2005.
The planes that Aeroman was doing were the America West side and yes since it was US Airways then so technically yes in 2009.
Keep trying.
US didnt get the right to outsource east planes until 2005.
The planes that Aeroman was doing were the America West side and yes since it was US Airways then so technically yes in 2009.
So you thnk the records posted in this article of a screw up on N444US at Aeroman in 2009 is forged? And that that US Airways plane (not former America West plane) was never there in 2009?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113942431
Bob,
- I maybe answering this prematurely as I have not read all post to date. With that said, yes, you are correct. All work was done domestically by SWA. El Salvador is the first over seas outsourcing done by SWA. All the lines at El Salvador were removed from venders in the USA that SWA was not happy with quality and performance, they are NOT added lines of maint.
No, first when asked by Bob if SWA followed US to El Salvador, you said " that would have been HP, not US"
Maybe you were wrong.
Maybe US Airways planes (not only former America West planes) were there before SWA planes?
Actually you said that SWA did not follow US down there. You stated that US could not have sent maint down there as US but only as AW prior to merger. WNMECH has in fact proven you wrong on this issue. NOW, you are stating that you did say that US started to outsource maint in 2005. WN asked you if the 444 A/C was not in fact done in El Salvador prior to SWA going there. The simple facts points to an absolute YES answer to that question. Matter fact we were told that El Salvador would have to, and are willing to build new hanger space to accommodate SWA lines of maint. and they did just that because US and other carriers were already there. So, for you Bob Owens; YES SWA did follow US (and others) down to El Salvador. 700, you are damaging your credibility by not owning up to when you are proven wrong. Don't end up like an Anomaly, realityck, CIO and others. Answer the question and move on, that's all...
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- #132
Last time I checked the IAM doesnt decide which stations to staff, at least they had the opportunity to keep their job. No one in the airline industry is gauranted a job in the city where they were hired or last worked.
It sucks, but its the nature of the business.
Every union in the airline industry has had members that have had to move inorder to keep employment.
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You're right, the IAM doesn't decide. Regardless, if an employee can't make the move to another city, and choose the street, they are essentially laid off. Btw, I missed the layoff protections in the US CBA?
The IAM facilitated UAL outsourcing MIA and MHT to Air Wisconsin before the merger, they are IAM members too so the IAM didn't lose dues only the members lost their jobs or had to relocate. And during the NW BK they did the same thing, plenty of posts to that effect if you search.
And it wouldn't surprise me if they struck a backdoor deal with UAL in the failed TA to have ZW or other IAM vendors handle the outsourced stations (all but 7 come 2017). ZW already handles UAX at IAD.
Josh
And it wouldn't surprise me if they struck a backdoor deal with UAL in the failed TA to have ZW or other IAM vendors handle the outsourced stations (all but 7 come 2017). ZW already handles UAX at IAD.
Josh
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Not for nothing, I happen to think you're dead on here, Informer...
