The twu just spit in your face!

[WNMECH]

US also has a no layoff clause and is in the first section 6 negotiations since chapter 11.

Come back and let us know when US mechanics are making over $43 an hr.

 

[700UW]

So who is doing all the mods on the 717s going to DL, wait, its not WN or AirTran mechanics.

 

[WNMECH]

So who is doing all the mods on the 717s going to DL, wait, its not WN or AirTran mechanics.

Who cares.
I get all the overtime I want right now?
Can you do basic math and figure how much I make on double time and triple time?

 

[WNMECH]

Before this slides deeper into a tit-for-tat, I would like to stipulate that I have no problem with the long standing SWA business model and I am compensated well for the work I do.

I wish all AMTs could enjoy the freedom I feel under AMFA to negotiate our contract ourselves and control our own futures without overbearing appointed union overlords telling us what we must accept.
It really is liberating.

 

[blue collar]

US also has a no layoff clause and is in the first section 6 negotiations since chapter 11.

At least the guys in SNA, DEN, ORF, RIC, PIT, and CMH know they weren't laid off. Just had to move to keep a job!

 

[TRAVIS]

At least the guys in SNA, DEN, ORF, RIC, PIT, and CMH know they weren't laid off. Just had to move to keep a job!

You forgot LAS in the list. Some of the guys i know would have some STRONG WORDS for 700 on that one. Like got to keep my low paying job and move also lost 100k or more on the resale of the house, thanks IAM. Most just took the layoff and it was a layoff just sugar coated.

 

[Bob Owens]

How's that working with WN planes being overhauled in El Salvador by Aeroman?

How about UA, DL and CO using HAECO in Hong Kong?

Didn't SWA follow US to El Salvador? Prior to that wasn't all of SWA planers done domestically?

 

[TWU informer]

Thank you.

Now back to reality.
I am not in a union to save the world, think globally and identify all the working mans enemies.
I want my union to fight locally, my direct enemy and get my work group the best compensation possible for our local families.

Save the pie in sky global stuff for the political rallies.

Well guess what? You work in a deregulated competetive enviornment. And your negotiations are curently stalled because the rest of us in the "global" industry have once again taken concessions which means your local enemy wants to match those concessions. This is why this fight needs to be industry wide. You cannot succeed locally, unless the rest of us succeed globally. Sorry, but that is just the way it is. Everytime one group fails, the rest suffer. Can you see that?

 

[700UW]

Didn't SWA follow US to El Salvador? Prior to that wasn't all of SWA planers done domestically?

That would have been HP, not US, and yes some of US' planes are done in El Salvador.

 

[WNMECH]

Well guess what? You work in a deregulated competetive enviornment. And your negotiations are curently stalled because the rest of us in the "global" industry have once again taken concessions which means your local enemy wants to match those concessions. This is why this fight needs to be industry wide. You cannot succeed locally, unless the rest of us succeed globally. Sorry, but that is just the way it is. Everytime one group fails, the rest suffer. Can you see that?

Our contract negotiations are not stalled at all. We make progress at every session and are making TAs of article after article at a steady pace.

http://amfa11.com/bulletinboards/?p=1067#more-1067

While your so called global industry problems will come into play when we get to monetary negotiations, we can do NOTHING to change the global problems.

You belong to a union that represents airline employee groups at many airlines and rail workers.
They are also a member of the mighty AFL/CIO.


How has all that global power helped you as AA mechanics?

I has buried you in a bureaucracy of non-elected bait and switch dues collectors who only care about lining their own pockets and spout the same "think globally" propaganda you are, to make their members THINK they are in something bigger than themselves.
That way they distract their local members from the unions local failures.

You better start thinking small and chop down at least a couple trees before you try to attack the whole forest.

Heck, you guys need to narrow your fight not expand it to the whole industry.
Maybe YOU should identify YOUR real enemy and focus locally, you will have more success in the future.
Good luck to you.

 

[700UW]

How did not being a member of the AFL-CIO work out for amfa at NW?

 

[WNMECH]

That would have been HP, not US, and yes some of US' planes are done in El Salvador.

This aricle says the first SWA A/C went to El Salvador in July 2009.

It also shows US Airways to already be a customer at that time. (at the bottom)

http://www.tulsaworl...E1_Southw927611

 

[700UW]

US was never a customer of Aeroman, that was the former America West, US continued the outsourcing after the merger with Aeroman.

When US outsourced some A320 work after the second bankruptcy it went to ST Aerospace at BFM which is in Mobile, AL.

 

[WNMECH]

US was never a customer of Aeroman, that was the former America West, US continued the outsourcing after the merger with Aeroman.

When US outsourced some A320 work after the second bankruptcy it went to ST Aerospace at BFM which is in Mobile, AL.

So in 2009 America West and US Airways wasn't the same company?

That is news to me.

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

How did not being a member of the AFL-CIO work out for amfa at NW?

700UW

How did just getting paid stock clerk pay for all your vast knowledge of the aviation industry, global markets, airport operations, running to the printers to make copies?

NOT AA EMPLOYEE
NOT TWU
NOT A&P MECHANIC
NOT MECHANIC

JUST IAM SUPPORTING STOCK CLERK, WHO HAS ALL THIS TO SAY ABOUT HOW GOOD USAIR IS BUT HE SPENDS ALL HIS TIME ON THE AA THREADS. WHEN HIS OWN IAM IS BEING RAIDED BY THE IBT AND THE MECHANICS AT USAIR ARE ASKING TO BE RELEASED FROM NEGOTIATIONS WITH PARKER.

I WOULD THINK HE WOULD THERE TELLING PARKER HOW TO RUN HIS AIRLINE AND THE MECHANICS WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING.

AMFA at AA in 2013​