The End Of US Airways

[hula-flyguy]

what does this merger do to the pilot integration?

 

[snapthis]

what does this merger do to the pilot integration?

It's not going to be pretty as you can see on the pilot thread.

 

[hula-flyguy]

I braved the waters of the pilot thread. I see there is no answer. Another wait and see deal...

 

[snapthis]

I braved the waters of the pilot thread. I see there is no answer. Another wait and see deal...

Yes, pretty scary over there. I read your post on the American site. I have one on the introduction America West locked thread.

You'll see we are not that far apart in a lot of areas, putting our pilot dispute aside.

Good luck to us all.

 

[hula-flyguy]

tried to send you a message, snapthis, but it did not work. It said you were unable to use the message system. The dispatchers are a great group, as are the people who work in west scheduling. That group has worked long and hard to overcome the negativity that once prevailed.

 

[snapthis]

tried to send you a message, snapthis, but it did not work. It said you were unable to use the message system. The dispatchers are a great group, as are the people who work in west scheduling. That group has worked long and hard to overcome the negativity that once prevailed.

I'll enable the message feature.

I see you read my thoughts. I'm trying to seperate my feelings of having USAPA imposed on me from the workgroup over-all. I'll go head to head with Usapians and their supporters of the tyranny we've endured as a result.

I grew up in the 60's and 70's. One of my favorite movies was the Longest Yard where prisoners played a rigged game against the guards. The prisoners had to get "creative" to defeat their opponents. Burt Reynolds, who played the QB could have threw the game and get an early release from prison. He played a team sport, sacrificing his ticket to freedom.

He wore #22, ironic, I wore the same number. I admired his sacrifice, like him, I got a few penalty flags for retaliating for low blows. Most important, he was a team player who defeated tyranny.

Enjoy the clip:

http://movieclips.com/CZ8MA-the-longest-yard-movie-ball-breaker/

 

[cynic]

I'm also happy to see ALPA will not return so the cry babies will have nothing to throw a tantrum about.

You've been around long enough to know better than that. They will find someone to blame, even if things go well.

 

[snapthis]

You've been around long enough to know better than that. They will find someone to blame, even if things go well.

I can't argue with your observation.

 

[signals]

I stand by my comment-of course the US employees will get a raise, which I am sure you're all happy about. But Parker has demonstrated over the years that employees and customers are liabilities rather than assets. US currently has industry low wages for most workgroups, and has led the way with ancillary revenue over the past few years. While they didn't pioneer baggage fees, they did lead the way on other fees, including trying to charge for water and soda, which had to be reversed after an outcry.

The profits US has enjoyed will more or less evaporate when wages catch up to industry standards, and the product on the US side has to be upgraded to match the AA side. I remember a Town Hall meeting Parker held at INT, where, when asked to comment on policy changes for Chairmans' members, he said, "why would we give chairmans' members ANY breaks. We should be charging them for the perks they now get for free on cheap fares." Nice way to engender customer loyalty.

I wish the folks at AA and US all the best, I just do not think ANYONE is going to benefit in the end except for stakeholders and Parker and his crew...

I thought Parker gave you what you wanted...cheap fares!

 

[wings396]

Some people want both, cheap fares and royal treatment along with all the free perks. If I go to Walmart to save a buck. I ain't expectin top notch customer service...

 

[signals]

I braved the waters of the pilot thread. I see there is no answer. Another wait and see deal...

Actually it might work because even as a FO a US capt gets about a $35 an hour raise. But the east west ewounds will unforttunately run deep, imho.

 

[signals]

Some people want both, cheap fares and royal treatment along with all the free perks. If I go to Walmart to save a buck. I ain't expectin top notch customer service...

Well said, wings, and congratulations that your airline made the big move. I have no doubt it'll work.

 

[wings396]

Thanks much, I'm glad that we have been able to put our differences behind us.
I hope that everything works out as well, and the key to that will be open minded employees on both sides.

 

[mike33]

Well said, wings, and congratulations that your airline made the big move. I have no doubt it'll work.

Thank god we can move on to the next era of aviation. I can finally spend my COLOGNE Quarter !!!!

 

[SS255]

I thought Parker gave you what you wanted...cheap fares!

I don't ever recall Art stating that he wanted "cheap fares." He was (and presumably still is) a proponent of "rational fares." $199 transcons circa 2004 were money-losing fares. I hope they never come back, because they're a huge factor in what brought about the airline bankruptcies in the first place. Dirt cheap fares don't do anybody any favors when the airlines offering them go bankrupt, and when they are at the expense of decent wages for airline employees.

I will be very sorry to see the US Airways name disappear after being a Dividend Miles member since 1987 (and a customer since 1981). I had to go out of my way to fly US Airways once I moved to LA (although connecting in CLT has always been a pleasure), but I flew them because they were "my" airline, and they made me feel connected to "home." I have made some great friends owing directly to my travels on US. Some of those friends may even be reading this. Best of luck to all of you here. I hope that you successfully make the transition to the New AA, and that you find the happiness and sense of pride in your company which seems to be sorely lacking on this board.