Tampa? Us Airways Employees

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Did you read the post before yours? It says we lost it in the bankruptcy and plan on getting it back with this agreement. But maybe you should stop doing your maintenance in house. Seems you plant one in the ground every 5 years or so. Look at our record. Clean!!
 
menyou said:
But maybe you should stop doing your maintenance in house. Seems you plant one in the ground every 5 years or so.
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Wow, that's mature. What a classy guy. :down:


I probably shouldn't bother to dignify that comment with a response, but I will point out that US's last crash was in 1994, that being 11 years ago, which is more than 5. I'd also ask you to point out exactly which US crash was caused by maintenance, in-house or otherwise.
 
America West Airlines fined for 41,000 safety violations
By Martin McLaughlin
16 July 1998
The Federal Aviation Administration has settled a safety complaint against America West Airlines after the Arizona-based airline agreed to pay $2.5 million in a civil penalty while not making any admission of wrongdoing. The FAA agreed to waive another $2.5 million in penalties provided the airline complies with an agreement to change its maintenance procedures.

The dimensions of the alleged violations of safety regulations are staggering. According to the FAA, 17 America West Airbus A320 jets made 41,000 flights after they were overdue for structural inspections. Airbus Industrie, the European manufacturer of jetliners, notified airlines in 1994 that the A320 jets needed structural inspections of the cargo doors, but America West did not carry them out for two years.

Other violations charged by the FAA include allowing 737 and 757 jets to take off with their cargo improperly secured and putting a 757 jet into service without making a required repair.

While the penalty paid by America West was headlined in the US media as the largest fine in US aviation history, the $2.5 million fine is barely a slap on the wrist for an airline which made record profits of $75 million in 1997.

Given the large number of violations, the fine averages a little over $50 per violation. In other words, the airline is paying less of a penalty for potentially putting hundreds of lives at risk than an ordinary motorist would pay for a traffic ticket.

The cozy relations between the FAA and the airlines it is charged with regulating were exemplified in the language of the agency's press release, which emphasized the "positive manner in which the carrier's management team responded to the allegations."

The settlement was announced on the day of a Senate hearing on legislation, introduced by Arizona Republican John McCain, which would award America West 12 of the 24 new landing slots at Washington's National Airport.

America West has followed in the footsteps of ValuJet and other startup airlines which have gained niches in the industry by outperforming their rivals in cost-cutting. In 1997, according to the company's annual report, it reduced its operating cost per available seat mile by 2.2 percent over 1996, to 7.27 cents, 23 percent less than the average for other domestic airlines.

The company had the highest aircraft utilization rate in the industry, operating its 102 jets an average of 12.3 hours per day, up from 11.8 hours in 1996. It cut its labor costs per seat mile from 1.97 cents in 1995 to 1.77 cents in 1997, mainly by eliminating the jobs of 500 mechanics who performed heavy aircraft maintenance. This work was contracted out in December 1995, and the mechanics fired.

The violations alleged by the FAA included problems with procedures at the contract maintenance bases, and America West agreed to better supervise its subcontractors as part of the settlement of the complaint.

America West's treatment of the mechanics is typical of labor relations in the airline industry, going back to the mass firings of the PATCO air traffic controllers in 1981 by Reagan. Since then airline after airline has broken strikes, fired workers and subcontracted jobs virtually at will.
 
dont bother arguing with 700 uw he is a legend in his own mind as well as IAM lap dog besides he is still pissed about losing out on the bid he put in on a lav truck at a recent auction, he was hoping to get it so he and his buddy dell dude can drive it around and yell yeehaw out the window
 
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shouldn't bother arguing with anyone from over there. They want to keep their senority because we all no the more senority you have, the less work you have to do. 16 years senority to hold Charlotte? Not sure how any work gets done.
 
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dont bother arguing with 700 uw he is a legend in his own mind as well as IAM lap dog besides he is still pissed about losing out on the bid he put in  on a lav truck at a recent auction, he was hoping to get it so he and his buddy dell dude can drive it around and yell yeehaw out the window
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Ahh another intelligent response, not.

Sorry to dissapoint you but I put no bid in on a lav truck as I don't need it as I am not utility.

But hey, keep trying.

And there was no arguement, HP does NOT do heavy mtc.
 
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shouldn't bother arguing with anyone from over there. They want to keep their senority because we all no the more senority you have, the less work you have to do. 16 years senority to hold Charlotte? Not sure how any work gets done.
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I guess the grass is never greener on the other side of the blast fence. I sure can wait to have employees with class and opinions like you coming over...NOT! And to think there was a breath of clean, fresh air coming around. :down:
 
Precedes Renewal of TIMCO Heavy Maintenance Contract
GREENSBORO, N.C., July 30 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- TIMCO Aviation Services, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: TMAS) announced that America West selected the company's subsidiary, Brice Manufacturing Company, for its fleet renewal program. The work scope includes seating for America West's 22 new Airbus A320/A319 aircraft and the possibility of follow-up work to retrofit a number of aircraft in its current fleet.

TIMCO also has announced the renewal of its multiple-year contract with America West for the supply of heavy maintenance services for the carrier's
Boeing 737, Boeing 757 and Airbus A319/320 fleets at TIMCO's Macon, Ga.
(TIMCO-MCN), and Lake City, Fla. (TIMCO-LCQ), facilities.


America West Airlines is a major U.S. carrier based in Phoenix, from which
it serves more non-stop destinations with greater frequency than any other
carrier. America West has hubs at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport in
Phoenix and McCarran International Airport in Las Vegas. The airline's modern,
fuel-efficient fleet consists of Airbus A320s, Airbus A319s, Boeing 757s and
Boeing 737s. The average age of the America West fleet is approximately
9 years.

January 22, 2005
Their business plans differ in many ways, but there's one area where major airlines and their cut-rate competitors agree: maintenance is a lot cheaper when it's performed by lower-paid mechanics working for outsourcers.

JetBlue, Southwest, America West, Northwest and United are among the carriers who outsource major maintenance of their aircraft to contractors in other countries, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal.

• As JetBlue's new A320 Airbus fleet ages, aircraft are sent to a repair hub in El Salvador;
• America West also sends its jets to El Salvador;
 
Their business plans differ in many ways, but there's one area where major airlines and their cut-rate competitors agree: maintenance is a lot cheaper when it's performed by lower-paid mechanics working for outsourcers.
sure sounds like AWA is dead serious about outsourcing to me....hey go for the teamsters!
frank said we're getting all this airbus work....
TIMCO Aviation Services, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: TMAS) announced that America West selected the company's subsidiary, Brice Manufacturing Company, for its fleet renewal program. The work scope includes seating for America West's 22 new Airbus A320/A319 aircraft and the possibility of follow-up work to retrofit a number of aircraft in its current fleet.
 
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700UW....yeah with that auction you have going on it really sounds like you guys aren't getting ready to outsource everything. We survived because we are a LOW COST CARRIER. Taking cuts where it doesn't matter (hmmm....like tire shops) is a way to keep our job. Did you notice how we didn't lose any mechanics after 9-11? Because we dont have extra. We have exactly the amount we need.
 
menyou said:
Did you read the post before yours? It says we lost it in the bankruptcy and plan on getting it back with this agreement. But maybe you should stop doing your maintenance in house. Seems you plant one in the ground every 5 years or so. Look at our record. Clean!!
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Hmmm! Lets see.........23 posts and already you've shown your true colors! What disrespect you've shown. How low can you go. I hope you don't represent AWA employees because if so we are in for a long long ride. Your record. Dirty!!
 
menyou said:
700UW....yeah with that auction you have going on it really sounds like you guys aren't getting ready to outsource everything. We survived because we are a LOW COST CARRIER. Taking cuts where it doesn't matter (hmmm....like tire shops) is a way to keep our job. Did you notice how we didn't lose any mechanics after 9-11? Because we dont have extra. We have exactly the amount we need.
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The tooling being auctioned off is planes that are now outsourced.

Lets see US does all heavy mtc on the A320 family and 50% of the 737s.

Gee what type of planes does AWA overhaul in-house?

NONE!!!!!

Don't let the facts hit you in the face!
 
menyou said:
We survived because we are a LOW COST CARRIER. Taking cuts where it doesn't matter (hmmm....like tire shops) is a way to keep our job. Did you notice how we didn't lose any mechanics after 9-11? Because we dont have extra. We have exactly the amount we need.
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You survived because of the $hitty working conditions and low wages Doug pays you.
Ive been to your hanger Ive seen how crappy things are there so tell it to someone who doesnt know better, why any mechanic would even consider going to PHX is beyond me!
 
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Precedes Renewal of TIMCO Heavy Maintenance Contract
GREENSBORO, N.C., July 30 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- TIMCO Aviation Services, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: TMAS) announced that America West selected the • As JetBlue's new A320 Airbus fleet ages, aircraft are sent to a repair hub in El Salvador;
• America West also sends its jets to El Salvador;
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Is it just me or does this seem incredibly fuel INefficient? <_<
 

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