Status of A350 Order

[USFlyer]

Any word/rumors on the A350 order?  UA converted their -900 orders to -1000 orders.  I'm wondering, now with the combined carrier, if US is considering changing its -800 orders to bigger models.

 

[Newman]

Has anyone compiled a list of AA's fleet ?

 

[Reed Richards]

Active Fleet Counts


American Airlines

 

American Eagle

 

Boeing 777-300ER

2

Super ATR

9

Boeing 777-200ER

47

Embraer 145

118

Boeing 767-300ER

58

Embraer 140

74

Boeing 767-200ER

14

Embraer 135

21

Boeing 757-200

102

Bombardier CRJ-200

12

Boeing 737-800

195

Bombardier CRJ-700

47

MD -80

190

 

 

Total

608

Total

281

 

Fleet Order Book


American Airlines

 

Boeing 737 Family

111

Boeing 737 Max Family

100

Boeing 777 Family

18

Boeing 787 Family

42

Airbus 320 Family

130

Airbus 320 NEO Family

130

Options for Additional Aircraft

523

 

 

[700UW]

They now have nine 777-300s, your count is off:
 
http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/American%20Airlines.htm

 

[Reed Richards]

They now have nine 777-300s, your count is off:
 
http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/American%20Airlines.htm

Damn Google!     That was from the AMR website.  They also have taken delivery of a number of the AB 319s.  RR (going back to the airport with my yellow notepad)

 

[700UW]

LOL

 

[1AA]

And we have our first A321. All these new aircraft coming in fast. Not bad for being in BK.

 

[dash8roa]

Any word/rumors on the A350 order?  UA converted their -900 orders to -1000 orders.  I'm wondering, now with the combined carrier, if US is considering changing its -800 orders to bigger models.

The new AA may have no choice but to move up to the -900. Too few orders for the -800. US has the largest order for the -800.

 

[700UW]

I always found it odd, that US was one of the launch customers, and yet Airbus builds the 900 before the 800, I just find that weird.

 

[FWAAA]

I read something the other day that Airbus has been quietly, unofficially, trying to convince the A350-800 customers to convert those order to -900 (or -1000) models.    As the -800 is a shrink, it suffers the same inefficiencies as other shrinks, like the 736, A318, A330-200 and 767-200.   Longer planes carry lots more people with the same two pilots (or 3 or 4 if very long flights), not many more FAs, and only modest additional fuel burn.     The A350-800 looks like a replacement (sizewise) for the A330-200.   Might as well convert those to longer models, which will provide a lot more square footage of floor space, which is very important these days of all-aisle-access flat beds.    Those seats take up a lot of floor space, so bigger models become necessary. 

 

[700UW]

The 330-200 is being widely used, it is needed as the 330-300's range is shorter and couldnt do PHL-TLV for example.

 

[FWAAA]

The 330-200 is being widely used, it is needed as the 330-300's range is shorter and couldnt do PHL-TLV for example.

True, but the short range of the A330-300 was an Airbus mistake which the company has worked diligently to remedy.   From the Airbus site:
 
 

The stretched-fuselage A330-300 matches twin-engine efficiency with increased passenger capacity – all while retaining the A330 Family’s highly comfortable, low-noise cabin and operating commonality with the entire Airbus fly-by-wire product line.  This jetliner currently has a range of up to 5,570 nautical miles while carrying 300 passengers in a typical two-cabin arrangement, seating 36 in first or business class at a 60-inch seat pitch, and 264 in economy at 32-inch pitch. 
 
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A further enhancement of the A330 comes with Airbus’ launch of an increased maximum takeoff weight capability to 242 metric tonnes.  With this improvement, the A330-300 will benefit from up to 500 nautical miles of extra range, to 6,100 nautical miles – with 300 passengers, and carry nearly five tonnes more payload than the previous 235-tonne aircraft.  In operational terms, the increased takeoff weight A330-300 will be able to connect to the following new city pairs: London to Tokyo; Frankfurt to Cape Town; Beijing to Melbourne; Beijing to San Francisco; Kuala Lumpur to Paris; and Los Angeles to Dublin. 
Airbus will apply the 242-tonne maximum takeoff weight capability first to the A330-300, with an entry in service targeted for mid-2015 (followed by the A330-200 and A330-200F). With these enhancements, Airbus will have added some 50 per cent more range to the A330-300 since its service entry, while reducing maintenance costs by 20 per cent.

 
http://www.airbus.com/aircraftfamilies/passengeraircraft/a330family/a330-300/
 
A 50% range increase since the A330-300 first entered service (from about 4,000nm to 6,100nm) is very impressive and the newest A330-300s could easily fly PHL-TLV.   US has a history of acquiring shorter-range models, like its 767-200ERs which don't have the long range of AA's 767-200ERs. 

 

[robbedagain]

What are the ranges for aa 762 er vs us 762s er

 

[700UW]

Actually the 767-200ers were Piedmont's, US cancelled the remaining 767s PI had on order only to figure out they needed more and ordered three more.
 
All the European flying was started by PI not US.

 

[Reed Richards]

NIce pic of the new AMR 321 with sharklets, just click to embiggen. Here is a link  (looks like it should pay like a 757 to me!) : 
 
http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?do=main.textpost&id=27b78e4e-e75b-48ca-b70c-8fa65921631f