Southwest lies about times!

[Tanker]

WN has been lying about times for years. I don't blame them.
The most profitable airline in the industry can't afford ACARS. Please. Call a spade a spade.
If WN started paying crews basde on over-under as apposed to the leg, WN's times would take a hit.

Let me show you the errors of your ways. First WN is using ACARS and has been for the last 6 months. In Sept 2006 (using ACARS) the % of WN's on time flights increased by 0.1% over the % for Sept of 2005 (not using ACARS). So using ACARS the % of on time arrivals basically stayed the same as when ACARS wasn't used.
Secondly while the crews do get paid by the leg if we block over the scheduled time we do get paid extra. Granted the 1st 11 minutes are for free, but starting at 12 minutes over block we get .1 TFP and then every 5 minutes we get another .1 TFP.
So get your facts correct before you try to call a spade a spade.

 

[N421LV]

There are many on these boards (and you know who you are) who now have a nice heaping plate of crow ready for their consumption.

 

[Kev3188]

 

[luv2fly]

Let me show you the errors of your ways. First WN is using ACARS and has been for the last 6 months. In Sept 2006 (using ACARS) the % of WN's on time flights increased by 0.1% over the % for Sept of 2005 (not using ACARS). So using ACARS the % of on time arrivals basically stayed the same as when ACARS wasn't used.
Secondly while the crews do get paid by the leg if we block over the scheduled time we do get paid extra. Granted the 1st 11 minutes are for free, but starting at 12 minutes over block we get .1 TFP and then every 5 minutes we get another .1 TFP.
So get your facts correct before you try to call a spade a spade.

Six months huh? Woopteefrikin doo. Talk to me again when WN has cumulative data that is worth discussing. Six months doesn't determine ####.
I'll call WN a spade any day of the week. WN has lied about times for years. Now, if you could just find a way to manipulate the ACARS out of PHL you would have it made wouldn't you? I am sure WN will find a way.

 

[mrman]

Six months huh? Woopteefrikin doo. Talk to me again when WN has cumulative data that is worth discussing. Six months doesn't determine ####.
I'll call WN a spade any day of the week. WN has lied about times for years. Now, if you could just find a way to manipulate the ACARS out of PHL you would have it made wouldn't you? I am sure WN will find a way.

Sounds like someone needs a hug

 

[bwipilot]

WN has been lying about times for years. I don't blame them.
The most profitable airline in the industry can't afford ACARS. Please. Call a spade a spade.
If WN started paying crews basde on over-under as apposed to the leg, WN's times would take a hit.

luv2fly,

Please read the previous posts and then delete your post. Your lack of knowledge concerning the topic is glaring.

 

[KCFlyer]

Six months huh? Woopteefrikin doo. Talk to me again when WN has cumulative data that is worth discussing. Six months doesn't determine ####.
I'll call WN a spade any day of the week. WN has lied about times for years. Now, if you could just find a way to manipulate the ACARS out of PHL you would have it made wouldn't you? I am sure WN will find a way.

YOu know...while they were lying about times, most didn't know ACARS would be in place as soon as it was...If they were lying so much, I would have expected to see increases of 10% or more. As it is, I see a slight decrease. Maybe they were lying on the high side to make the ACARS time look better.

 

[luv2fly]

luv2fly,

Please read the previous posts and then delete your post. Your lack of knowledge concerning the topic is glaring.

I read the previous post. I understood it quite well.
WN lied about times for years. You can deny it if you wish, but I have close ties to WN and know it to be true. I worked for an airline with no ACARS and it was a daily event. I have several WN captain associates who have admitted to it to me personally. Why would they lie to me that they have lied about times?
I suppose now you will tell me these are simply isolated instances?
The only thing I find glaring is your denial.

 

[KCFlyer]

I read the previous post. I understood it quite well.
WN lied about times for years. You can deny it if you wish, but I have close ties to WN and know it to be true. I worked for an airline with no ACARS and it was a daily event. I have several WN captain associates who have admitted to it to me personally. Why would they lie to me that they have lied about times?
I suppose now you will tell me these are simply isolated instances?
The only thing I find glaring is your denial.

My wife's hairdressers uncles wifes sisters cousin, who knows a guy who went to school with a guy who knew a guy that became a Southwest pilot, and he said they lied all the time.

 

[luv2fly]

My wife's hairdressers uncles wifes sisters cousin, who knows a guy who went to school with a guy who knew a guy that became a Southwest pilot, and he said they lied all the time.

Well then, we are in agreement. Glad to have such a WN coolaid drinker on board KC. Seriously, do you own so much WN stock that they contractually obligate you to spew it? (the koolaid, that is)

 

[KCFlyer]

Well then, we are in agreement. Glad to have such a WN coolaid drinker on board KC. Seriously, do you own so much WN stock that they contractually obligate you to spew it? (the koolaid, that is)

I divested my stock a couple of years ago. The only stock in my family is in my kids college account.

 

[Rhino]

Luv2,

1) SWA uses ACARS

2) SWA does pay for overfly once 12 minutes over scheduled block

3) SWA pays what was scheduled when the block is underflown

 

[SharoninSAT]

My wife's hairdressers uncles wifes sisters cousin, who knows a guy who went to school with a guy who knew a guy that became a Southwest pilot, and he said they lied all the time.

Sounds like pretty reliable sources.

 

[Rhino]

luv2 is a Deltoid who might have a job again with so many early retirements. Be nice to him/her.

 

[luv2fly]

luv2 is a Deltoid who might have a job again with so many early retirements. Be nice to him/her.

Been gainfully employed for several years now, with 25+ years to plan for retirement. Thanks for your concern, but I really don't need it.