While a majority viewed Ms. Palin as unqualified for the vice presidency, roughly three-quarters of voters saw Mr. Obama’s running mate, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, as qualified for the job. The increase in the number of voters who said Ms. Palin was not prepared was driven almost entirely by Republicans and independents.
Over all, views of Ms. Palin were apparently shaped more by ideology and party than by gender. Ms. Palin was viewed as unprepared for the job by about 6 in 10 men and women alike. But 8 in 10 Democrats viewed her as unprepared, as well as more than 6 in 10 independents and 3 in 10 Republicans.
Growing Doubts on Palin Take a Toll, Poll Finds
NY Times Article/Poll
Lifted from another blog:
[ Sarah Palin uses the emotionally charged word "socialist" when discussing the policies of Obama. But she passed on "windfall oil profits" of the Alaskan oil industry to every citizen of Alaska, to the tune of $3,200 per citizen. Isn't that "redistributionist"? Exxon made 14 billion dollars this year. She wants to extend tax breaks to that oil company. I don't see why Alaska's oil industry profits should be "redistributed", but the lower 48 can't roll Exxon's taxes back to the Reagan levels--and if it does it is "redistributionist". ]![]()
Bob, since this is the mantra to which you have decided to "cling", I thought I would share this thought with you.I'll take my redneck arse and go back to clinging to my guns and religion if that's OK.
"As Melinda Henneberger notes, Sen. Obama is being accused of displaying a profound misunderstanding of so-called Midwestern or small-town values based on a recent comment. The senator explained how voters—angry and demoralized by their economic circumstance and the inability of politicians to improve rather than worsen their plight—"cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them."
With due respect to the good people in Melinda's hometown of Mount Carmel and with fond remembrance of my two decades in South Bend, Ind., I doubt anyone in those places is offended until Clinton and McCain ride into town and rile them up with falsehood and fear.
This is merely the inverse formulation of Obama's positive message to not fall prey to politicians of either party who seek support by dividing us. Instead of seeking peace, we have a president and his first cousin barely removed perpetuating an unnecessary war. Instead of addressing the poverty or immaturity or insufficient learning that can lead a young woman to terminate a pregnancy, partisans on both sides mystify us into thinking the next Supreme Court justice (so long as she is "our" nominee) will make it all better. Instead of working to limit crimes of violence by strengthening families, the polemicists of old politics construct the myth that when Madison penned "well-regulated militia," he meant ample home arsenal. Instead of honoring people of faith whose gospel motivates them to teach or ladle in soup kitchens or staff hospitals and nursing homes, candidates gratuitously stoke racial and religious hatred by constant replay of a minister's overheated rhetoric.
Now, having stirred up intense hate and suspicion toward each other, the message of Sen. McCain is: Cling to those hates, my friends. Woe be to anyone who would have the hopeful audacity to tell you to stop. Why, says Mrs. Clinton, you should have known all along that anyone who tells you, "Yes, you can" is a fraud. You know you can't. Insist on your right to see yourself as a victim. Don't vote your freedom—vote for me!
No, Sen. Obama, no apologies needed. When you call upon us to set aside divisions based on faith, you do not dishonor religion but rebuild its immunity from political manipulation. Like Pascal, you are reminding us that faith is "of another order which surpasses all the rest in depth and height."
It's a good reminder even if it did prompt Mrs. Clinton to reminisce about how her father taught her to shoot when she was a young girl in the Chicago suburbs. "Incoming!"
So it seems that Mr Obama owes every union man and woman a personal apology for his arrogant and insulting "redneck" remark as without the original rednecks you as union workers would not have made what you made prior to 9/11 and the Democratic Party wouldn't have organized Labor in their hip pocket.
Check out the link. It doesn't have the quote I'm referring to but it is at minimum an amusing read.
http://rednecks4obama.com/HomePage.php
The quote I'm referring to was made by Obama and was in a stump speech he made in the primary and his spin machine must have been a Maytag because it's not easy to find. It went IIRC like this.
"Rednecks who cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them."
Obama was referring to rural people and far as I can tell working men and women who he purports to want to help. Generally speaking insults are not viewed as helpful.
I'm going to keep looking to see if I can find the complete quote and prehaps the text of the speech it's from so we can determine context.
Ah, thanks for pointing me in the direction, Bob. I know what you are talking about now; and I have a limited remembrance of the press covering it earlier this year. I don't remember his using the word 'redneck'. This article from the BBC doesn't mention 'redneck' either. I understand your frustration with the comment -- I agree that it was very poorly worded and poorly delivered. But it is a bit disingenuous to equate it with Obama being "ignorant of history", arrogant, and disrespectful to those coal miners. You base almost your entire argument on the true meaning of 'rednecks'... but it doesn't appear that Obama used that word (or even was referring to those coal miners). Thus, there is a serious disconnect with your position on the rednecks/coal miners/unions and Obama's actual comments. Though, the actual comment of Obama -- and interpretation by many -- is still frustrating and implicates a much broader section of America than just the coal miners. I did not interpret it the way that many did; but I fully understand the frustration.
Note: It doesn't appear the 'redneck' commentary started until Charlie Daniels said this after Obama's remarks: "He said something to the effect that us rednecks cling to our guns and our religion when we get frustrated and I would like to take umbrage to these remarks. My faith goes much deeper than his superficial explanation and I love my guns even when I'm not frustrated."
So Tech if I'm understanding you correctly you think it's perfectly OK for Barack Obama to completely disrespect the brave coal miners of WV, many who gave their lives to roganize the coalfields?