Rumor has it DL PHL-LHR

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

... the addition of another flight on top of the competition that the EU ordered be allowed to serve the market with AA/BA assets is precisely why it is anti-competitive.

 
Speaking as a prudent and selfish customer, I don't see anything uncompetitive here.  The morning departure from PHL is great news from me. 
 
I've taken BA's morning departure from JFK to LHR on several occasions (even recall AA had a morning departure from BOS back in the day, BA still offers it).  PHL will be a great additional option for those that want to arrive in the UK in the evening. 
Hopefully if the morning PHL-LHR flight works well they'll upgrade the equipment from a B757 ... ... ... a B787 would be great on that route.
 
I guess I should maybe say 'thank you DL'

 

[WorldTraveler]

ON A subpar 757?

this is about as fast as hypocrisy has come full circle on this board.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

ON A subpar 757?

this is about as fast as hypocrisy has come full circle on this board.

 
Unfortunately, yes, especially if it is a US 757 .................

 

[commavia]

Indeed AA doesn't serve BOS-LHR with its own metal.  AA has no need to serve BOS-LHR anymore because it's in bed with the route's dominant carrier (by far) which operates 4x daily flights on a mix of 777s and 747s and - much like with the case of PHL-LHR, MIA-LHR, JFK-LHR, ORD-LHR, LAX-LHR, etc. - can offer a more dense and comprehensive schedule throughout the day than any competitor can ever possibly hope to match.
 
Sort of like how Delta no longer needs to fly its own aircraft to BOM because it has a JV partner that can do it for them more profitably ... but hey, that's Delta, so of course it's brilliant when they do it.

 

[WorldTraveler]

no one argued that AA/BA isn't the largest carrier between the US and UK. that is PRECISELY why the EU required a divestiture. Get it?

thanks for the slot pair.

and your subpar 757 will undoubtedly attract a boatload of passengers who would never get on a DL 757.

and, since you want to bring up BOM, AA has never served India, right? or Africa? and had to fly to Russia with a 777 because their 767s weren't capable of adapting to Russian ATC?

I'm sure the concept of no fly zones is WAY beyond anything AA understands.

other than dropping a few bucks in Castro's kettle, Latin America is a pretty tame part of the world.

 

[jcw]

that's right - BA had to give up one slot pair - that will just ruin their hub at LHR

 

[WorldTraveler]

no one said that.

but AA will fly a 757.

is AA's 757 subpar too?

 

[jcw]

Yes they both are subpar - while the 757 can fly the route not the best aircraft for the journey in any class of service - however this is not about Latin America - as you tried to switch topics again because you are losing the argument with facts others place in front of you

 

[WorldTraveler]

I know topics changed rapidly but neither is it about BOM or Asia. where was your outrage for that comment?

Latin America came up because commavia decided to throw DL's BOM cancellation into the discussion - which is driven by the no fly zones beyond Europe and Asia.

suppose you can give us a map of the no-fly zones over the Atlantic?

 

[commavia]

Per usual - these rantings and ravings are getting more detached from reality as the fear increases.
 
AA has flown to India before - with nonstop ORD-DEL operating for almost a decade.  Perhaps you missed that?
 
Secondly, I have no idea what that has anything at all to do with this discussion/topic.  Is this somehow supposed to suggest that AA is technically incapable of flying to challenging locales?  Man, these "best in commercial aviation" arguments are getting more and more desperate (laughable).  Back to the original point - in some cases, it makes sense for airlines to hand over service in certain markets to JV partners.  AA did it with BOS-LHR.  Delta is doing it with AMS-BOM.  No difference.

 

[WorldTraveler]

oh, so they couldn't make it? what was the reason? no fly zones?

of course not.

AA lost boatloads of money flying to India. Now they do it to East Asia.

you are the one that threw India into this discussion. it is being discussed umpteen other places.

and, yes, JVs do allow passing routes back and forth between carriers.

the reason why DL is doing it on AMS-BOM is not market driven but because of security/regulatory restrictions.

if you want to use switching an ATL-LHR and LAX-LHR, then your analogy would be valid.

and since AA does and will fly 757s to LHR as well as other places in Europe, there is nothing wrong with any carrier doing it. right?

 

[jcw]

Translation:
 
DL has never lost money on any route it has flown - so no airline in the world could ever match DL's flights
 
See - I have a serious problem - I can never find anything - not a single thing DL ever does wrong - however anything any other airline does is always flawed
 
you can see in my last post (post 101) on this thread - I've come unhinged

 

[WorldTraveler]

you are REALLY BAD at translation.

you make up a whole lot of stuff.

I have never said DL doesn't lose money doing anything.

in this case, DL will be operating a 757 flight on PHL-LHR just like AA's 2nd flight.

can you tell us to what cities AA operates 757s where DL uses all widebodies?

can you tell me if every aircraft in the AA/US int'l fleet has on-demand AVOD at every seat and lie flat seats in Business class on EVERY aircraft?

maybe all 757s aren't the same.

 

[jcw]

I love how you like to ask questions - since you will never answer a question
 
See I am very comfortable with pointing out where AA needs to improve - you can't bring yourself to list 1 let alone 10 things DL can do better
 
So until you can produce a list - don't expect others to answer your questions - since you can't bring yourself to be objective about DL in any way shape or form
 
bless your heart

 

[WorldTraveler]

I don't need to produce a list... you need to get over the notion that one will come.

I have noted many times what AA has done well and I don't mind admitting what DL has done wrong... giving away the LAX-MEX route was one I have just noted. but I think they will get it back soon and have a JV to go with it before long.

DL isn't perfect... neither are you and neither am I. I have never said anything to the contrary.