Recall Rights Extended for FA's

[nbmcg01]

That has already happened. We voted down the RPA. Of course, with the no vote an extension was put into place only allowing yes votes, no yes votes changed to no. It is part of the reason the RPA lawsuits are still in court. Everyone "blames: us for controlling the vote. How silly, the fact is simple, we vote.

 

[2clippedwings]

Glad to see that the company has decided to be a little more reasonable. Too bad it had to take a threat of Congressional action to get them to see the light. Congratulations to all those affected. Now if we could just make it retroactive for all those who have already been dropped from the list.

As a former TWA f/a who was furloughed many years ago, even then with a 5 year recall limit, I supported this action and signed a petition to show that support. Who would have imagined that furloughs would be of such a long duration?
Congratulations on the lines of communication being opened and good luck on a fair outcome. It is an option that furloughees would like to have. I know that personally I would have appreciated it.

 

[Nor'Easta]

That's all well and good, but I'm not willing to give back another dime to extend recall rights.

Straaight...

I agree with you 1,000%!

As for the "elderly poster"....he can stuff it were the sun dont shine

 

[Nor'Easta]

I have to disagree with you on the staffing crisis.... I dont believe one exists... I never get reassigned. Yes I see it happen when weather hits but thats par for the course. Saying each trip becomes a rsv trip is simply not true....

Then tell us why on November 3rd, JFK f/a's were flying LGA trips? Hmmm... staffing problem? Shortage of f/a's? Way too early in the month for Intl' f/a' to be flying Dom trips.

 

[nbmcg01]

[quote name='Nor'Easta' post='540196' date='Nov 4 2007, 12:28 AM']Then tell us why on November 3rd, JFK f/a's were flying LGA trips? Hmmm... staffing problem? Shortage of f/a's? Way too early in the month for Intl' f/a' to be flying Dom trips.[/quote]

Hopefully you'll be getting more relief soon. Just in time for the holidays. Maybe now some of you will be able to be home with your loved ones (without having to call off sick) Always good to have "cushion" at the bottom.

 

[L1011Ret]

[quote name='Nor'Easta' post='540195' date='Nov 4 2007, 05:23 AM']Straaight...

I agree with you 1,000%!

As for the "elderly poster"....he can stuff it were the sun dont shine [/quote]

That is the best you can do? You are still playing in your sandbox with language like that. I would hope that your childish displays are not representative of the group to which you belong.

Most of here are painfully aware that if you came across a dying TWA F/A on the sidewalk you would not pay "one dime" to call an ambulance. The attitude of the two of you is painfully clear.

 

[StraaightTaalk]

idiot.

LOL...Is that the best you can come up with? LOL

 

[StraaightTaalk]

Which "elderly poster" would that be? And why do you feel the need to use the word "elderly" as a pejorative?

When I see the word "elderly" I think "wise, mature, balanced, experienced." Positive qualities which take decades to attain.

MK

None of those adjectives describes L1011ret. The only adjectives that can describe him are "grumpy, petulant, hypocritical, delusional."

He slams others for their opinions, using insults, but cries and whines when others do likewise.

 

[AdAstraPerAspera]

Straaight--

You may not use insults, but the lack of compassion and humanity you have chosen to show your colleagues borders on cruelty and malevolence.

I sincerely hope you work on your karma before it all comes back to bite you-you know where.

- astra

 

[StraaightTaalk]

Straaight--

You may not use insults, but the lack of compassion and humanity you have chosen to show your colleagues borders on cruelty and malevolence.

I sincerely hope you work on your karma before it all comes back to bite you-you know where.

- astra

There is no "cruelty and malevolence" in stating an opinion that we have already given enough, and any recalls should come at no cost to the presently active flight attendants.

Your attempts at drama are weak at best.

 

[AdAstraPerAspera]

There is no "cruelty and malevolence" in stating an opinion that we have already given enough, and any recalls should come at no cost to the presently active flight attendants.

What part did I miss? Show me where someone was asking that. You are inventing things in your addled brain, much like someone suffering from paranoia. Stop seeing your colleagues as an enemy to be fought, and you'll go farther and get more. United and uniform is more powerful than divided and marginalized. It's just common sense.

Your attempts at drama are weak at best. Beginning from your first post in this thread.

- astra

 

[StraaightTaalk]

What part did I miss? Show me where someone was asking that. You are inventing things in your addled brain, much like someone suffering from paranoia. Stop seeing your colleagues as an enemy to be fought, and you'll go farther and get more. United and uniform is more powerful than divided and marginalized. It's just common sense.

Your attempts at drama are weak at best. Beginning from your first post in this thread.

- astra

L1011ret clearly advocates in this, and other threads, further concessions from the present flight attendant group to subsidize extended recall rights.

Apparently you are unable to read for detail. Perhaps a course in reading comprehension at your local high school would help.

Good luck with that.

 

[Nor'Easta]

That is the best you can do? You are still playing in your sandbox with language like that. I would hope that your childish displays are not representative of the group to which you belong.

Most of here are painfully aware that if you came across a dying TWA F/A on the sidewalk you would not pay "one dime" to call an ambulance. The attitude of the two of you is painfully clear.

Childish? Ha! Look in the mirror. I have nothing against any AA f/a. This includes the recalled former TWA, as well. Yes, I would call an ambulance if I came across any dying person on the sidewalk.

Our contract states 5 year recall rights. Not 5 years plus 60 days or 10 years. 5 years and that's it! If you get knocked off the list you can re-apply in July 2008.

 

[nbmcg01]

No one is asking for additional concessions or early openers. This is to address the extraordinary hardships as a result of 9-11. Federal $$s bailed the airlines out. Those furloughed have paid over $600,000,000 in "shared sacrifice". Surely this is enough to warrant a comparable extention to other groups on the property? I suggest that you take a hard look at the seniority list, starting with the first person senior to the former TWA f/as. How many do you know would be in this position right now? Would you be so willing to sacrifice their careers? This can be accomplished very easily with a NPNR LOA. (only to address the 9-11 furloughs) It also could have been taken care of by AA with a single recall of all remaining f/as in Oct. Classes to be scheduled later. These were the very junior AA casualties, so the pay card was not an issue.

 

[AdAstraPerAspera]

L1011ret clearly advocates in this, and other threads, further concessions from the present flight attendant group to subsidize extended recall rights.

Well, okay then, that's all you needed to say. Too bad you're a person who can't stop there. I hadn't realized you aren't capable of making your point without personal attacks like a typical sophomoric jerk.