Real Hope & Change - Ron Paul 2012
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Sadly, I agree that some are exactly as you state. I do not happen to be among them however. The Libertarian path is an easy one to talk and a far tougher walk.
I watched the debates on Fox the other night and Herman Cain did VERY well and I got to thinking about how the Left pulls the race card whenever the Empty Suit gets criticized. Herman Cain takes that away and forces a national dialogue on the direction of the country.
Just a thought from a crazed Ron Paul fanatic. While I'm at it, I found this particularly sad/funny as it is all to true. Ok Folks, every eye closed, every head bowed.
Senate Psalm 23, Obama's Epistle to the Acorns:
Obama is my shovel, I shall not work.
He leadeth me to green bailouts
To profitable public works projects, he leads me
He refreshes my voter outreach budget
He guides me in left paths for the children's sake
Yea, though I walk thru the valley of fiscal conservatism I fear no budget cuts for Obama's bumper sticker is on my car.
His hammer and sickle give me earmarks.
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It's very easy for you to say that since you probably don't have to worry about it actually happening.
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Social Security is not the best example to use. You are correct that many are in favor of cutting programs just so long as it isn't their favorite program. Thomas Jefferson's quote below largely explains why I'm a Libertarian. Shrinking Government is going to be painful. However the alternative IMO will be much more painful. The sooner we return to the principles of the founding fathers the less pain all the way around. It will be tough but IMO well worth it.
"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have ... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases"
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Is that because you are getting or going to get soon, a Social Security check?
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One of the things I like about Ron Paul is you know EXACTLY the place he comes from. Frankly I think it's long past time for the media to be challenged, lectured if you will. What passes for Journalism today is shameful and if you interview a guy like Ron Paul be prepared and stop trying to play "Gotcha" with him.
Hey when you pick a fight with someone who is brighter then you don't be surprised if you get you ass handed to you. The media has tried to marginalize him for years and they can't do it. I thought he was very gentle with her
Hey when you pick a fight with someone who is brighter then you don't be surprised if you get you ass handed to you. The media has tried to marginalize him for years and they can't do it. I thought he was very gentle with her
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Getting your ass handed to you works both ways.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s66bTshO1jM
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Frankly, I think the interview shows the "Gotcha" mentality of the MSM. Under the current system, you have to play the game. Ron Paul plays is less than anyone else. I however do part company with him over aid in times of natural disaster. I get why he raised the question, however to me the ONE clearly defined role of the Federal Government is to defend our citizens against foreign invasion and to me that includes hurricanes, famine, etc etc.
As to the cheap shot on Social Security. I'm ten years out on collecting. The problem with that program is that it is now a long term contract and millions of people have made their financial plans based upon the assumption it would be available. If the Federal Government wants to abolish SS I'm OK with that under the following conditions. I started paying in @ 14 in 1968, take the historical average gain in the stock market (Around 12% compounded) and calculate what my investment account would be if I invested in the stock market then give me a check for that amount and I'm cool. They confiscated that money without my consent, I had no choice to opt out, so now they should pay out if they want to step away from the program.
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Foreign invasion = natural disaster? Come one now. That's a stretch that Nadia Comaneci would be proud of. Just admit that you like republicans and democracts an any other party want the government to do certain things. What we all want them to do differs and sometimes over laps. The founding fathers did not have Hurricane Hugo in mind when they wrote about invasions.
As for the gotcha media. Ron Paul is a politician. Politicians are hypocrites (some more than others). Ron Paul got caught. No big deal. He got caught doing what politicians do.
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They are the same in the sense that both inflict a horrible level of pain upon the populace.
I have a problem with Federal Flood Insurance that allows for rebuilding on barrier islands and coast lines or river banks prone to flooding. I just moved recently from the NJ shore and if a real storm ever hit like the one in 1962 which split Long Beach Island in half were to hit the damage would be in the BILLIONS. That's not the roll of government at the Federal Level as there is significant historical data that shows the risk. Give a property one or 2 bites of the Flood Insurance apple and then that's it.
What is the roll of government at ALL levels is an event like Katrina or the Earthquake in Japan recently. When an event is so catastrophic that it overwhelms the local government and charitable resources it is an appropriate for the Federal Government to step in.
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You can call it gotcha journalism if you want. It does not change the fact that Ron Paul looks like a major tool.
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You are really dating yourself there Dell
I meant to say tool.
Dell hasn't been on a date with himself in years.
