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I've been idle for a little while hoping this bickering would go away. You guys, this integration is done. It's just like after a contract vote, it's done, you cannot change anything about it. The AT comte did what they saw needed to do. The teamsters were holding out for binding arbitration if we did not agree to DOH (dovetail). The AT cmte saw many other groups getting years added to thier service. The cmte then put a rather large amount of pressure on the teamster lead nego to allow the 4 yrs to be voted on, if it passes it passes, if it fails we go to arbitration. My personal opinion is the teamsters really thought it was not going to pass and would end up in BA anyways. In BA I do believe we still would have recieved a boost, what that boost would have been is unknown, my guess would have been between 3-4 yrs.
Although the end results may have not been what some wanted, it is what it is, done, can't be changed now. Most all people out there automatically think that with this new law about integrating, that it's automatic to get DOH with BA. As seen by more than one BA with AT/SWA integration this is not the case, alot of them seen the huge increases the AT employees were recieving and ruled accordingly. Leason learned? Don't always assume DOH in BA, you have to look at all the gains from both sides and then fairly balance the 2 sides to equallality. This is why SWA mechs recieved the highest boost of 4 yrs, that was also givin by an outsider in BA. The AT cmte saw this and desided to vote on it. But from what I understand the cmte forced the teamsters to allow it to come out for a vote. Someone pls correct me if I am wrong here. The teamsters are actually happy they don't have to spend the cash for BA and end up with the same results...
Although the end results may have not been what some wanted, it is what it is, done, can't be changed now. Most all people out there automatically think that with this new law about integrating, that it's automatic to get DOH with BA. As seen by more than one BA with AT/SWA integration this is not the case, alot of them seen the huge increases the AT employees were recieving and ruled accordingly. Leason learned? Don't always assume DOH in BA, you have to look at all the gains from both sides and then fairly balance the 2 sides to equallality. This is why SWA mechs recieved the highest boost of 4 yrs, that was also givin by an outsider in BA. The AT cmte saw this and desided to vote on it. But from what I understand the cmte forced the teamsters to allow it to come out for a vote. Someone pls correct me if I am wrong here. The teamsters are actually happy they don't have to spend the cash for BA and end up with the same results...
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Agree!
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As long as they want it's entertaining!
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Interesting. I haven't seen an AirTran post since July 20th on this thread.
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whats up with this story about Herb and GK getting heated enough that Herb was escorted out of HDQ by security, now it seems a whole lot of people are talking about bringing back Herb to right the ship!
I have heard at least 20 different people from many depts talk about this story...
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Has anyone else been hearing this chatter?? do u think GK has done a good job or is it time to pass the torch???
I have heard at least 20 different people from many depts talk about this story...
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Has anyone else been hearing this chatter?? do u think GK has done a good job or is it time to pass the torch???
Bus, there was a posting on SWAlife from GK about this rumor. It got so bad at HQ that GK had to put a letter out addressing it. Per GK NO, nothing accured between Herb and GK. It was all just rumors.
So far I am ok with GK. But we better see alot of return for buying AT, going international, going into busier airports, ect...
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SWAMT- how do you know it's not true???? Do you think they would actually admit the truth about it?? I think not. I do believe there was a heated talk but also don't believe that Herb was escorted off properity. I think that since the artical in SWALIFE was brought up so fast to squash the rumor that their might be some truth to it. I don't feel that GK is doing a good job and A good friend of mine was talking to one of the founding fathers and he is not happy with how things are going also.
SWA needs to bite their pride and start charging for bags. United made 5.2 billion last year from bag fees. If SWA just charged $5.00 per bag that would gross about 1.2 million per DAY for a yearly total of $432,000.000 with the number of passengers they carry. I would think that $226 Milliion dollar profit would JUMP just alittle.
