Rand Paul Detained by TSA

[777 fixer]

Face it, worm food or not, Osama Bin Laden won. 11 years after 9/11 and we're still afraid of the Twerrowist Bogeyman. FISA Courts, Patriot Act, DHS, TSA all in response to one man's ranting. 19 people under the direction of Osama bin-Laden succeeded at something Hitler, Stalin, Po; Pot, Hirohito, Mussolini and other failed at for over 200 years. He convinced us to trade our Liberty for security and now we have neither.

I think a history book from you local high school will say otherwise. We put an entire ethnic group on the West Coast in internment camps because we were afraid of a fifth column. A fifth column that did not exist. Then there's the red scare of the 1950's. How many peoples careers were ruined because of that?

If you ask me that's a whole lot worse than what Sen. Rand "I got my seat thanks to my last name" Paul went through.

 

[delldude]

Tech....you doing the DC two step?

tech2101, on 23 January 2012 - 08:46 PM, said:
I treat that as a legal question, which it is, and the answer is Yes.

I have not seen any challenge to them overturned or upheld by the SCOTUS, unless I missed it.

Well then you can support your position as to why it is within the realms of Constitutional requirements?

 

[SparrowHawk]

I think a history book from you local high school will say otherwise. We put an entire ethnic group on the West Coast in internment camps because we were afraid of a fifth column. A fifth column that did not exist. Then there's the red scare of the 1950's. How many peoples careers were ruined because of that?

If you ask me that's a whole lot worse than what Sen. Rand "I got my seat thanks to my last name" Paul went through.

If it makes you happy we can amend the abuse of power to my lifetime.

You and tech still evade the question and the point. Do the people fear their Government or does the government fear the people? Ask anyone who's been audited by the IRS their answer to that question.

I no longer feel I live in a country that is truly free.

 

[tech2101]

Well then you can support your position as to why it is within the realms of Constitutional requirements?

That is like asking asking if any CFR is within the realms of constitutional requirements.

 

[777 fixer]

If it makes you happy we can amend the abuse of power to my lifetime.

You and tech still evade the question and the point. Do the people fear their Government or does the government fear the people? Ask anyone who's been audited by the IRS their answer to that question.

I no longer feel I live in a country that is truly free.

So as long as it happend in your lifetime is what matters? You just can't accept the fact that you were WRONG! And by the way there are numerous other examples, I just gave two.

 

[delldude]

That is like asking asking if any CFR is within the realms of constitutional requirements.

No it is not......either the intrusion is Constitutional or it is not.

Support your statement directly, quit changing the topic.

Either you support your statement or you don't.

That simple.

 

[SparrowHawk]

That is like asking asking if any CFR is within the realms of constitutional requirements.

Just exactly what color Tap shoes do have on? I gave you the case law, "Mr Citation Man" which clearly points out Federal Government run amok given that the 9th has some of the most Activist Judges serving. Did you change your name to Savion Glover

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[tech2101]

No it is not......

Is The OSHA constitutional?

 

[delldude]

Is The OSHA constitutional?

How long are you going to evade the question and validate your statement?

Your integrity is at stake on this forum.

 

[tech2101]

Just exactly what color Tap shoes do have on? I gave you the case law,

You gave nothing.

You cannot pick and choose sections of US Code you disagree with and call those unconstitutional with any sound legal argument.

 

[tech2101]

validate your statement?

Validate what statement?

 

[delldude]

Validate what statement?

Why don't you quit playing games.

 

[SparrowHawk]

You gave nothing.

You cannot pick and choose sections of US Code you disagree with and call those unconstitutional with any sound legal argument.

Feel better now Savion? Here's the court case. All you had to do was open Google and type in the case and case number. Typical Liberal/Progressive, why do yourself what you can get others to do?

Here Ya Go Lazy Boy

 

[delldude]

Validate what statement?

You have proved yourself.

 

[Ms Tree]

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Ben Franklin

To Date, the TSA has not caught ONE terrorist at an airport security checkpoint. Since its inception it has searched millions of people, trampling their civil liberties in the process.

Millions if not billions of dollars spent on finding a cure for cancer and they have nothing to show for it. They should stop looking.

Your argument holds no water. There has to be security at the airports. How do you suggest they do their job with out being invasive? There are quite a few arguments I can think of against the current processes of the TSA but not having stopped a terrorist is not one of them. Given that there has only been one instance in the last 10 years, it is not like terrorists are popping up all over the place to be stopped.

Security is invasive. The level of security seems to be related to the level of invasiveness. Tell us how you want it done.

Mr Paul knew the rules of the game. If he does not want to play, he could take a car or train. Sucks to be him.