QC off the b checks
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Gentleman,
Why waste your keystrokes with this nymph, (700UW), He's a fleet Service Clerk who has helped negotiate the disgusting contract that the USair AMTs now live with. This is to spite the fact that they have been out of bankruptcy for years. They simply have the lowest wages in the industry next to us at AA. He knows nothing about Aircraft other than seeing them on the ramp. I stand corrected, I believe he knows that they "Suck, Squeeze and blow". Why? Because that's what he does. I'm also sorry for our USair AMT brothers, guys pull your britches up and run from these morons. Hurry, hurry get the drive restarted at USair. I'll call my USair friends tonight again to urge them to get the AMFA drive started.
AMFA Now More Than Ever
Why waste your keystrokes with this nymph, (700UW), He's a fleet Service Clerk who has helped negotiate the disgusting contract that the USair AMTs now live with. This is to spite the fact that they have been out of bankruptcy for years. They simply have the lowest wages in the industry next to us at AA. He knows nothing about Aircraft other than seeing them on the ramp. I stand corrected, I believe he knows that they "Suck, Squeeze and blow". Why? Because that's what he does. I'm also sorry for our USair AMT brothers, guys pull your britches up and run from these morons. Hurry, hurry get the drive restarted at USair. I'll call my USair friends tonight again to urge them to get the AMFA drive started.
AMFA Now More Than Ever
AMFAinMIAMI
Veteran
700UW said:
700UW
You're correct we won't know how much of each carriers MX program will be adopted, until its all said and done but
don't try and tell us the A&P's what it takes to do a "B" check.
YOU just don't have any idea.
No matter what job you did at US/CAL or any place else you may have worked. You are not now or have you ever been an
A&P mechanic for any of the places you worked.
MM/GPM/MCM manuals will get changed as AA and US work all this out. They are NOT going to consult with YOU on how they doit.
Nor are they going to ask the TWU or IAM either. they will make changes and submitt thos eto the FAA for apporoval.
If we switch to AMFA then we will not even have the stock clerks in our union.
AMFA at AA 2014
- Banned
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Wow, more misinformation, sorry not fleet, was utility and stores and we worked the checks with the mechanics and in support of the checks.
So keep making up lies.
You don't have to be and a&p to understand what is required.
More of your elitist attitude and you wonder why an auto mechanic at a car dealerships make more than you.
So keep making up lies.
You don't have to be and a&p to understand what is required.
More of your elitist attitude and you wonder why an auto mechanic at a car dealerships make more than you.
700UW,
You are a useless toad. You can stay on this blog all you want hitching a ride on our backs. Wouldn't it make sense to blog on a Stores/Fleet Service tread? You call yourself an AMT supporter or whatever. That's just another term for leech. You don't see me blogging on a pilots thread. Why? Because I'm not a pilot. It's people like you that just wouldn't stop hanging on our coat tails. We'll have a surprise for you soon. So, scat you turd.
If we can simply rid our hair of you lice, then and only then will we receive wages that are higher than automotive and or Mass Transit mechanics. You are correct, your type is our downfall.
To all AA and USair AMT's, it's clear and present why we have depressed wages. There is a large bunch of IAM and TWU blood sucking zombies around like 700UM. They are envious of us, that's why they continue to place their boots on our necks. Learn from their words and actions.
AMFA Now More Than Ever
You are a useless toad. You can stay on this blog all you want hitching a ride on our backs. Wouldn't it make sense to blog on a Stores/Fleet Service tread? You call yourself an AMT supporter or whatever. That's just another term for leech. You don't see me blogging on a pilots thread. Why? Because I'm not a pilot. It's people like you that just wouldn't stop hanging on our coat tails. We'll have a surprise for you soon. So, scat you turd.
If we can simply rid our hair of you lice, then and only then will we receive wages that are higher than automotive and or Mass Transit mechanics. You are correct, your type is our downfall.
To all AA and USair AMT's, it's clear and present why we have depressed wages. There is a large bunch of IAM and TWU blood sucking zombies around like 700UM. They are envious of us, that's why they continue to place their boots on our necks. Learn from their words and actions.
AMFA Now More Than Ever
TWU showing some teeth?
Decision to abandon a decades-old maintenance practice by removing Aircraft Inspectors from their primary role in performing wide body aircraft B-Check inspections.
Updated On: Apr 24, 2014
[SIZE=medium]April 24, 2014[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]To the Membership, [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]On short notice, AA management has made the decision to abandon a decades-old maintenance practice by removing Aircraft Inspectors from their primary role in performing wide body aircraft B-Check inspections. Our new management has decided to replace these Aircraft Inspectors with technicians who cannot be expected to have the experience and training necessary to perform the new inspection work assigned to them. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]It is Local 591’s position that the Company’s new maintenance policy violates the collective bargaining agreement and we will take appropriate legal action in response. It is also our view that the Company’s new maintenance policy, as exacerbated by the short-notice nature of its implementation, adversely impacts safety and puts our technicians’ licenses at risk. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Technicians who find themselves thrust into this new inspection role must ensure that all maintenance is performed in accordance with the applicable maintenance manuals and should seek assistance and inspection review as necessary. This letter is being forwarded to management representatives to express our concern that AA’s actions do not conform with federal aviation safety standards as discussed below.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]On Monday, April 14, 2014, Dec Lee from the “NEW” American Airlines management team announced to the TWU Leadership that the airline was planning to reduce the TWU Aircraft Inspectors’ scope of work to what AA considers to be the minimum items required by the FAA. When Local 591 immediately raised operational and contractual objections to this seismic change in maintenance practices, David Seymour committed to further discussion prior to any implementation. We have only recently learned that, without the benefit of further dialogue with Local 591, the new policy became effective on April 24, 2014.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]We consider the Company’s implementation of its new reduced-inspection maintenance policy to be in violation of the collective bargaining agreement. Significantly, at no time during the bankruptcy did American Airlines propose the conversion of Aircraft Inspector work to that of an Aircraft Technician, nor was any value given for such a concession during the 1113 bankruptcy process. In addition, it is our view the Company’s decision to dishonor its commitment to engage in further discussions with respect to this matter violates its legal obligation under the Railway Labor Act to make every reasonable effort to resolve such disputes.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]As a general rule, the Railway Labor Act provides that the grievance and arbitration process is the exclusive means of addressing unresolved disputes involving contract interpretation issues. Local 591 is taking the necessary steps to file the appropriate grievance(s). During the pendency of the grievance procedure, Local 591 and its members are required to conform to AA policy.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Nevertheless, we must also remember that, as A&P-licensed technicians, we serve two masters: the Company and the Federal Aviation Administration. The Company has chosen to proceed with a “shock and awe” implementation of a reduced-inspection maintenance policy. Conceivably, therefore, Company supervisors might be forgiving with respect to errors and oversights committed by the technicians whom they have placed in such a difficult situation. We cannot count on such leniency with the FAA.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Federal law mandates that:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]Each person performing maintenance on an aircraft, engine, propeller, or appliance shall use the methods, techniques, and practices prescribed in the current manufacturer’s maintenance manual ….[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]14 CFR § 43.13(a). Federal Aviation Regulations also provide that an airline and its employees are responsible for the “performance of the maintenance or preventive maintenance … in accordance with its manual and the regulations of this chapter.” 14 CFR § 121.363(a)(2). Technicians who fail to adhere to these requirements risk enforcement actions, loss of license, and, in extreme cases, imprisonment. Moreover, Local 591 anticipates that the FAA will have more FAA Inspectors on the property scrutinizing the airline’s decision to modify its wide body maintenance program.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]It is Local 591’s view that AA has not adequately trained and prepared our line technicians for the new inspection role they will suddenly be compelled to assume and, therefore, has violated federal aviation standards. Notwithstanding AA’s abandonment of dialogue in this matter, Local 591 is determined to assist our members fulfill their legal obligations.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]In an effort to make it easier to identify the changes that American Airlines has made to the wide body B-Check work cards, Local 591 has compiled a list of the cards that were previously accomplished by Aircraft Inspectors to help those of you who may now be assigned to do the inspections. As in all maintenance work, guesswork is not permitted. The procedures for job tasks contained in these work cards are codified in the applicable maintenance manuals. These maintenance manuals are not a “guideline” – they are law and they must be followed. No line supervisor has the authority to waive the applicability of a maintenance manual requirement. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Whenever a technician’s review of all applicable maintenance manual provisions still leaves him with doubt as to proper procedure, he may choose to “Q” an item on an E-58 in order to obtain the appropriate verification and validation of the work performed. Placement of a back check “Q” on an E-58 is particularly appropriate if you determine that American Airlines has not properly trained you to inspect the item in question. Please do not consider this a sign of weakness – your license and the safety of the traveling public is at stake. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]AA’s purported policy is “Safety First.” However, as maintenance-staffing levels are reduced, we have all felt the increasing pressure of meeting schedules and returning aircraft back into revenue service. Therefore, I have requested the Regional Vice Presidents assign a designated Local 591 representative to deal with any issues that arise from operational disputes with management. Please do not engage in any argument with management representatives - it is the responsibility of your union representative to do so.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]As your President, I have grave concerns over the road that the “NEW” American Airlines management team is choosing to take the wide body B-check maintenance program and other changes they may be considering for the work we currently performed in the collective bargaining agreement. As a Local, we will continue to challenge any future decisions that impact our members through the appropriate channels. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Fraternally,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium](Signed)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Gary G. Peterson[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]President, Local 591[/SIZE]
Download:
QC_B-Check_Letter_to_Membership.pdf
Decision to abandon a decades-old maintenance practice by removing Aircraft Inspectors from their primary role in performing wide body aircraft B-Check inspections.
Updated On: Apr 24, 2014
[SIZE=medium]April 24, 2014[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]To the Membership, [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]On short notice, AA management has made the decision to abandon a decades-old maintenance practice by removing Aircraft Inspectors from their primary role in performing wide body aircraft B-Check inspections. Our new management has decided to replace these Aircraft Inspectors with technicians who cannot be expected to have the experience and training necessary to perform the new inspection work assigned to them. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]It is Local 591’s position that the Company’s new maintenance policy violates the collective bargaining agreement and we will take appropriate legal action in response. It is also our view that the Company’s new maintenance policy, as exacerbated by the short-notice nature of its implementation, adversely impacts safety and puts our technicians’ licenses at risk. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Technicians who find themselves thrust into this new inspection role must ensure that all maintenance is performed in accordance with the applicable maintenance manuals and should seek assistance and inspection review as necessary. This letter is being forwarded to management representatives to express our concern that AA’s actions do not conform with federal aviation safety standards as discussed below.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]On Monday, April 14, 2014, Dec Lee from the “NEW” American Airlines management team announced to the TWU Leadership that the airline was planning to reduce the TWU Aircraft Inspectors’ scope of work to what AA considers to be the minimum items required by the FAA. When Local 591 immediately raised operational and contractual objections to this seismic change in maintenance practices, David Seymour committed to further discussion prior to any implementation. We have only recently learned that, without the benefit of further dialogue with Local 591, the new policy became effective on April 24, 2014.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]We consider the Company’s implementation of its new reduced-inspection maintenance policy to be in violation of the collective bargaining agreement. Significantly, at no time during the bankruptcy did American Airlines propose the conversion of Aircraft Inspector work to that of an Aircraft Technician, nor was any value given for such a concession during the 1113 bankruptcy process. In addition, it is our view the Company’s decision to dishonor its commitment to engage in further discussions with respect to this matter violates its legal obligation under the Railway Labor Act to make every reasonable effort to resolve such disputes.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]As a general rule, the Railway Labor Act provides that the grievance and arbitration process is the exclusive means of addressing unresolved disputes involving contract interpretation issues. Local 591 is taking the necessary steps to file the appropriate grievance(s). During the pendency of the grievance procedure, Local 591 and its members are required to conform to AA policy.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Nevertheless, we must also remember that, as A&P-licensed technicians, we serve two masters: the Company and the Federal Aviation Administration. The Company has chosen to proceed with a “shock and awe” implementation of a reduced-inspection maintenance policy. Conceivably, therefore, Company supervisors might be forgiving with respect to errors and oversights committed by the technicians whom they have placed in such a difficult situation. We cannot count on such leniency with the FAA.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Federal law mandates that:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]Each person performing maintenance on an aircraft, engine, propeller, or appliance shall use the methods, techniques, and practices prescribed in the current manufacturer’s maintenance manual ….[/SIZE]
[SIZE=small]14 CFR § 43.13(a). Federal Aviation Regulations also provide that an airline and its employees are responsible for the “performance of the maintenance or preventive maintenance … in accordance with its manual and the regulations of this chapter.” 14 CFR § 121.363(a)(2). Technicians who fail to adhere to these requirements risk enforcement actions, loss of license, and, in extreme cases, imprisonment. Moreover, Local 591 anticipates that the FAA will have more FAA Inspectors on the property scrutinizing the airline’s decision to modify its wide body maintenance program.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]It is Local 591’s view that AA has not adequately trained and prepared our line technicians for the new inspection role they will suddenly be compelled to assume and, therefore, has violated federal aviation standards. Notwithstanding AA’s abandonment of dialogue in this matter, Local 591 is determined to assist our members fulfill their legal obligations.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]In an effort to make it easier to identify the changes that American Airlines has made to the wide body B-Check work cards, Local 591 has compiled a list of the cards that were previously accomplished by Aircraft Inspectors to help those of you who may now be assigned to do the inspections. As in all maintenance work, guesswork is not permitted. The procedures for job tasks contained in these work cards are codified in the applicable maintenance manuals. These maintenance manuals are not a “guideline” – they are law and they must be followed. No line supervisor has the authority to waive the applicability of a maintenance manual requirement. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Whenever a technician’s review of all applicable maintenance manual provisions still leaves him with doubt as to proper procedure, he may choose to “Q” an item on an E-58 in order to obtain the appropriate verification and validation of the work performed. Placement of a back check “Q” on an E-58 is particularly appropriate if you determine that American Airlines has not properly trained you to inspect the item in question. Please do not consider this a sign of weakness – your license and the safety of the traveling public is at stake. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]AA’s purported policy is “Safety First.” However, as maintenance-staffing levels are reduced, we have all felt the increasing pressure of meeting schedules and returning aircraft back into revenue service. Therefore, I have requested the Regional Vice Presidents assign a designated Local 591 representative to deal with any issues that arise from operational disputes with management. Please do not engage in any argument with management representatives - it is the responsibility of your union representative to do so.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]As your President, I have grave concerns over the road that the “NEW” American Airlines management team is choosing to take the wide body B-check maintenance program and other changes they may be considering for the work we currently performed in the collective bargaining agreement. As a Local, we will continue to challenge any future decisions that impact our members through the appropriate channels. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Fraternally,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium](Signed)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Gary G. Peterson[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]President, Local 591[/SIZE]
Download:
QC_B-Check_Letter_to_Membership.pdf1AA,
We'll see shortly if the TWU is showing teeth or being toothless. It's been my experience that it's more bark than bite. We'll remember this date April 24, 2014. How much do we have to suffer? What will it take? There is a seismic trimer about to happen. The question is, How will the TWU respond? We, the members will not jump to a hasty conclusion on this issue. We will wait and see.
However, the companies' total lack of respect for the TWU is directly related to the TWUs own disdain for the AMTs and their continued desecration of our Class and Craft.
AMFA Now More Than Ever
We'll see shortly if the TWU is showing teeth or being toothless. It's been my experience that it's more bark than bite. We'll remember this date April 24, 2014. How much do we have to suffer? What will it take? There is a seismic trimer about to happen. The question is, How will the TWU respond? We, the members will not jump to a hasty conclusion on this issue. We will wait and see.
However, the companies' total lack of respect for the TWU is directly related to the TWUs own disdain for the AMTs and their continued desecration of our Class and Craft.
AMFA Now More Than Ever
Overspeed
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- Jun 27, 2011
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AANYER said:
The WB's are in JFK, LAX, DFW, and MIA. Haven't seen any uproar in DFW. Is this all WB fleet types? There was a GPM revision email sent out that updated the ARA from NB to Line Station B/P releases. Looks like QA is just going to buy back RII list items.
I have no doubt that AA is panic stricken by the threat posed by the twu regarding inspectors. (or lack thereof).
As the last red rollaway leaves TUL and heads towards hwy 169, the twu officers will be there telling the mechs " sorry guys; but we fought like hell!
What will it take to get rid of the twu?
As the last red rollaway leaves TUL and heads towards hwy 169, the twu officers will be there telling the mechs " sorry guys; but we fought like hell!
What will it take to get rid of the twu?
AMFAinMIAMI
Veteran
DNTULSA said:
DNTULSA
That has been the question for years now.
HAVE YOU HAD ENOUGH YET?
Flying low
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- Jul 19, 2011
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What did the TWU think when they invited the enemy in? Did they expect everything to remain status quo? I'm sure most of us on the floor knew that USAIR would change some of our maintenance practices. Sometimes you get what you ask for....
AMFAinMIAMI
Veteran
Overspeed said:
O/S
You put down the TWU's Local 591, I don't understand being a staunch TWU supporter,
explain to us all here how that can be?
The TWU according to you saves jobs, does not outsource work, So HOW are you now putting down the very institution that you have for yrs defended?
Is it because your group of scammers are not in office?
Is it because you did not get into any position?
Explain to us why?
Does that mean you will support doing away with the TWU?
Are you now seeing the light, that the TWU is out for it's self?
Overspeed
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- Jun 27, 2011
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AMFAinMIAMI said:
It's called sarcasm. I do support the TWU. Do you think the local 591 officers do? More than half of the officers either support the IBT or AMFA and were voted in because they were the anti-Int'l candidates. They aren't the TWU. The current agreement that protected more jobs than AMFA ever did was put in place in spite of them.
The TWU is my union.
