QC off the b checks

[700UW]

Thats the USAir way? How pathetic. They been farming out their work for years, have 1/3 of M&E personnel than AA has and are in the process of cannibalizing our numbers down to bare minimums. If this is any indication on how our future will be at the new American all we have to do is look at USAir's past and history will repeat itself. Fasten your seat belts folks its going to be a rough ride.
 

Do you actually do any research before you post?
 
At US a B-Check is a line function, they are not farmed out.
 
Only things that can be farmed out is components and 50% of billable hours of heavy maintenance.
 
Line has never been farmed out and still is ALL done in-house.
 
Dont let the facts get in your way!

 

[1AA]

Do you actually do any research before you post?
 
At US a B-Check is a line function, they are not farmed out.
 
Only things that can be farmed out is components and 50% of billable hours of heavy maintenance.
 
Line has never been farmed out and still is ALL done in-house.
 
Dont let the facts get in your way!

and you are a AMT and still work for WHO again?

 

[700UW]

Are you that blinded or is it ignorance?
 
You didnt answer, did you actually do any research before you posted?
 
Show us where US Airways farms out a line maintenance B-Check.
 
You cant because they dont, go walk over or call anyone at US and they can inform you of the reality instead of your made up facts.
 
Show me on your A&P License or Test where it says you have to have one to know who does B-Checks on US planes.
 
US does B-checks as part of line maintenance and it is not farmed out.
 
Those are the facts jack and dont let them get in your way.

 

[1AA]

Are you that blinded or is it ignorance?
 
You didnt answer, did you actually do any research before you posted?
 
Show us where US Airways farms out a line maintenance B-Check.
 
You cant because they dont, go walk over or call anyone at US and they can inform you of the reality instead of your made up facts.
 
Show me on your A&P License or Test where it says you have to have one to know who does B-Checks on US planes.
 
US does B-checks as part of line maintenance and it is not farmed out.
 
Those are the facts jack and dont let them get in your way.

Little testy are we?

 

[700UW]

Once again,
 
Did you do any research on how and who accomplishes a B-Check on a US Airways plane?
 
And are you going to answer anything asked of you?
 
Show us where US farms out a B-Check.
 
And I guess you cant handle being proven wrong by someone who doesnt have an A&P.
 
So let me explain this to you once again, at US Airways a B-Check is accomplished by line maintenance and line maintenance is not farmed out and isnt allowed to be per the CBA.

 

[1AA]

Once again,
 
Did you do any research on how and who accomplishes a B-Check on a US Airways plane?
 
And are you going to answer anything asked of you?
 
Show us where US farms out a B-Check.
 
And I guess you cant handle being proven wrong by someone who doesnt have an A&P.
 
So let me explain this to you once again, at US Airways a B-Check is accomplished by line maintenance and line maintenance is not farmed out and isnt allowed to be per the CBA.

Read my post again carefully after you put down the baby rattler. Where did I say the that the B checks were farmed out? Do not assume or twist my posts around insinuating I said something else without actually spelling it out. BTW, I see the changes being made up front. I am experiencing it everyday the USAir way. What a disaster for the M&E division.

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

Are you that blinded or is it ignorance?
 
You didnt answer, did you actually do any research before you posted?
 
Show us where US Airways farms out a line maintenance B-Check.
 
You cant because they dont, go walk over or call anyone at US and they can inform you of the reality instead of your made up facts.
 
Show me on your A&P License or Test where it says you have to have one to know who does B-Checks on US planes.
 
US does B-checks as part of line maintenance and it is not farmed out.
 
Those are the facts jack and dont let them get in your way.

 
700UW
 
What ever the airplane is considered line or other wise at AA, the aircraft is taken out of service, not part of the line operation until the completion of the "B" check.
At AA there can be 100 or more cards assigned to the aircraft, depending on the type of B check. Since you are NOT and A&P and never worked the B check you would not know either. I can only assume that you do know the parts required since it is stores responsibility to issue the filters, packing, lubes and any other tooling, parts required to accomplish the check.
 
When an A&P talks about line operation aircraft we are talking about aircraft that within a short time maintenance can be completed or deferred and placed on the gate for operational requirements.
 
Wide body aircraft require approx 45 guys across three shifts 8hrs work or more. At AA the aircraft is taken out of service. It works different on narrow body aircraft.  Wide body aircraft which is what this thread is about are flown into stations that have the manpower to accomplish such a check. NOT any line station no matter which airline is doing it, can perform a "B" check at the level of AA checks on any over night line operation. Way too many cards and the aircraft at times will require an engine run or heavy sheet metal repairs if any damage is found. Borescopes and NDT inspections are required at times as well.
 
So first you need to understand just what a "B" check is. If USAirways does not farm out this work then tell us which stations in the US system are big enough to handle the work we are talking about. Besides CLT or PHX, maybe even LAX. 

 

[700UW]

US can accomplish a B-Check at any line station.
 
Normally PIT, PHL, CLT, PHX, DCA, BOS, LAX and any other station US chooses where staffed.
 
US seems to have gotten along just fine doing line maintenance where they choose and never had issues.

 

[1AA]

US can accomplish a B-Check at any line station.
 
Normally PIT, PHL, CLT, PHX, DCA, BOS, LAX and any other station US chooses where staffed.
 
US seems to have gotten along just fine doing line maintenance where they choose and never had issues.

So USAir has a Hangar at every line station where they have their own maintenance personnel? Did I read that correctly?

 

[700UW]

A line hangar is not necessary at US to perform a B-Check, its an overnight line check.
 
And there are hangars at LAX, CLT, PIT, PHX, DCA and BOS that US has.
 
Take off your AA blinders, airlines accomplish checks in different ways, everything isnt done the AA way in the Aviation World.

 

[1AA]

A line hangar is not necessary at US to perform a B-Check, its an overnight line check.
 
And there are hangars at LAX, CLT, PIT, PHX, DCA and BOS that US has.
 
Take off your AA blinders, airlines accomplish checks in different ways, everything isnt done the AA way in the Aviation World.

Yea I see that is why the QC guys are being pulled off the B checks. Another level of quality maintenance being removed.

 

[700UW]

Most A and Ps at US are DQC qualified.

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

A line hangar is not necessary at US to perform a B-Check, its an overnight line check.
 
And there are hangars at LAX, CLT, PIT, PHX, DCA and BOS that US has.
 
Take off your AA blinders, airlines accomplish checks in different ways, everything isnt done the AA way in the Aviation World.

 
 
700UW
 
As an A&P we all realize that a hanger is not required for a "B" check. But as I said besides LAX/CLT/PHX where do they do your USAirways "B" checks.????????
 
BUT now the GUY"S who work for USAir now work for AA. Officially they have not merged so you need not go there, But Things are going to be done for the most part.
 
No matter what you think AA is going to be on the Aircraft NOT USAirways, when it is all said and done.
 
I would guess that the checks you are talking about are more of a phase type check, or an extended "A" check.
 
BUT WIDE BODY "B" Checks require lots of man power and are not usually done on a over night. Sorry

 

[700UW]

At US they are done in PHL overnight line hangar for the widebodies.

And no one knows what mtc program will be adopted, with the US/HP merger they chose the US mtc program.

And CLT line has the capability to do the B-checks on widebodies also. I worked both in PHL and CLT, supporting the checks.

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

Yea I see that is why the QC guys are being pulled off the B checks. Another level of quality maintenance being removed.

1AA
 
He is not an A&P has no clue as to what maintenance is required on a wide body "B" check.
 
We will see or hear as time goes on whether the number of E58's stays the same or the work gets over looked, then its not the USAirways way of doing
things its the mechanics. So if the aircraft become trash it's our own fault. Either do the work or stop putting blame where its not warrented.