profit Sharing?

[AA-MRO.COM]

Over 13 years of abuse it will take at least that long to get back to where we once were
Just sayin.....

 

[WeAAsles]

Over 13 years of abuse it will take at least that long to get back to where we once were
Just sayin.....

I agree 100%. And for some people it may be impossible for them to ever let go of they're anger for those years? That just has to be something the company learns to accept. They're not going to win over everyone no matter how much they give or what they do.

For some the mindset is permanent.

 

[DallasConehead]

I agree 100%. And for some people it may be impossible for them to ever let go of they're anger for those years? That just has to be something the company learns to accept. They're not going to win over everyone no matter how much they give or what they do.

For some the mindset is permanent.

Over 300k since 03 and rising daily,  yes the mindset will be permanent.
 
Signed,
Greedy lazy overpaid whining Airline Mechanic that got his FAA Certs from a cereal box. (Anyone can do it)

 

[WeAAsles]

Over 300k since 03 and rising daily,  "yes the mindset will be permanent."
 
Signed,
Greedy lazy overpaid whining Airline Mechanic that got his FAA Certs from a cereal box. (Anyone can do it)

So the company will have to learn to accept whether they like it or not that there will always be people such as yourself that no matter what they do they will never be able to win over. Unless maybe they gave you a $300.000 check and that's certainly not going to happen.

Oh well I guess? Ces't La Vie.

 

[DallasConehead]

Well, lets just say that prior to 03 I believed the union had my best interest in mind. That belief is long gone. I believed the relationship with the company though adversarial provided compansation commensurate with my skills when compared to my peers at other simalar airlines.

This is no longer the case and the company with union blessing has robbed me and my family of that money. Compensating me substantially less then my peers. This caused at first a hardship causing divorce and near bankruptcy until lifestyle adjustments were made.

With time in the pension and decent seniority the choice to stay was made. But, not without a penalty to those 2 entities. The union has lost my loyalty. The company has lost my vigor to perform with passion. Now it is just a j.o.b., I do my time to get to retirement and not make errors that cost me my licenses, damage to equipment or injury to myself or others. Take my paycheck and go home to the family.

The wind has long ago left the sails. A pittance of profit sharing a year from now (if there is profit) is nothing more then a sound bite from parkers lips.

 

[Worldport]

Then money is not the answer then

Being well compensated is a bedrock. It takes the pressure off your personal life. The one outside of your job. It provides comfort and security in knowing that you don't have to worry about paying your bills. That you can now get ahead and pick up a few extra creature comforts for yourself and your family. You don't feel like you have to work OT anymore just to make ends meet and be desperate during those times of the year when OT dries up and you have to hustle to try and get extra hours. So hopefully you're more happy in your personal and family life and that's something you can bring to work with you.

But at work then both sides need to feel like they're involved in an appreciated partnership. That your opinions and concerns to management are being listened to and the same in reverse. No one wants to feel that they aren't engaged. That they're not just a number on that employee card. Management is in the leadership role so it's up to them to figure out how to foster that and it's up to us to go along and change our old mindsets of mistrust. But management has to wait for trust to grow. That doesn't come overnight and no you can't pay your way to trust.

There's still a lot of problems at AA but I am noticing improvements in many areas and think that will continue over time?

[/QUOTE]Well said,I don't know why anyone wold give that a negative vote.  Not that it matters. Actually this should be framed and hung in the Boardroom.

 

[Worldport]

So the company will have to learn to accept whether they like it or not that there will always be people such as yourself that no matter what they do they will never be able to win over. Unless maybe they gave you a $300.000 check and that's certainly not going to happen.

Oh well I guess? Ces't La Vie.

Or the company can just overhaul more planes in Mexico. I know I know the work is inferior

 

[swamt]

It's 5% of the pre-tax profits, ex special items, or one-third of the 15% that was offered by management in 2012 as part of the bankruptcy concession demands.
 
The AA pilots traded away 10% (2/3 of the profit sharing) in 2012 in exchange for reduced concessions, and thanks to the "me-too" provisions, so did every other workgroup.
 
When Parker arrived on the scene, the unions traded away the remaining 5% (the last 1/3) for small % wage increases.

Here's another question.  Parker first said Delta/UAL + 7%, then retracted that down to +3%, my question is now what will Parker retract to since he is giving the PS?  Before any of you say he will not do that, remember, HE was the one that put the $$$ attached to the PS and 401K's, what makes anyone think he won't do it again?  If Parker follows his history he will now say equal pay as Delta/UAL because now you guys have PS back. Now the asso. needs to start on getting the 401K back as well...
 

Put a billboard (a very big one 100x100) at every class one station airport entrance with all the concessions we are working under. Now that's a moral booster....
BTW give me my money and keep your profit sharing

 

[Worldport]

Here's another question.  Parker first said Delta/UAL + 7%, then retracted that down to +3%, my question is now what will Parker retract to since he is giving the PS?  Before any of you say he will not do that, remember, HE was the one that put the $$$ attached to the PS and 401K's, what makes anyone think he won't do it again?  If Parker follows his history he will now say equal pay as Delta/UAL because now you guys have PS back. Now the asso. needs to start on getting the 401K back as well...
 

 Don't you have your own problems. I'm sure you are REALLY concerned about us

 

[WeAAsles]

Well said,I don't know why anyone wold give that a negative vote.  Not that it matters. Actually this should be framed and hung in the Boardroom.

Thanks. But I doubt it will ever matter on here? Some of these people I think have always been and always will be miserable. Has to be more than just hatred of their company and union.

I'm positive.

 

[bob@las-AA]

Over 300k since 03 and rising daily,  yes the mindset will be permanent.
 
Signed,
Greedy lazy overpaid whining Airline Mechanic that got his FAA Certs from a cereal box. (Anyone can do it)

 
I'm calling BULL SH#T on this one, 300k from your base pay??? BS

 

[WeAAsles]

I'm calling BULL SH#T on this one, 300k from your base pay??? BS

He's just painting the World he envisions had Jimmy Carter not signed deregulation in 1978. His Champagne and caviar, red carpet passenger, 1950's air travel life and dreams. The good old "Coffee, Tea or Milk" days. Meatloaf in the oven and pipe at the ready and that warm woman to greet him at the door when he came home from the long days toil.

Everything past 1978 ignored in his little mind.

 

[bob@las-AA]

He's just painting the World he envisions had Jimmy Carter not signed deregulation in 1978. His Champagne and caviar, red carpet passenger, 1950's air travel life and dreams. The good old "Coffee, Tea or Milk" days. Meatloaf in the oven and pipe at the ready and that warm woman to greet him at the door when he came home from the long days toil.
Everything past 1978 ignored in his little mind.

I copy that.

 

[DallasConehead]

 
I'm calling BULL SH#T on this one, 300k from your base pay??? BS

25k/yr x 12 = 300k gawd..... Cmon Bob, your the numbers guy up in here. geeez
 
Base pay, vacation sick time, holidays x2.5, I could keep going, all of that adds up as you know.
 
In your post you seem unaware and oblivious of the sacrifices M&R has made which is typical of other title groups under the same representation umbrella.

 

[DallasConehead]

He's just painting the World he envisions had Jimmy Carter not signed deregulation in 1978. His Champagne and caviar, red carpet passenger, 1950's air travel life and dreams. The good old "Coffee, Tea or Milk" days. Meatloaf in the oven and pipe at the ready and that warm woman to greet him at the door when he came home from the long days toil.

Everything past 1978 ignored in his little mind.

 
In this post, again the weasel david has no answer to the facts that I am presenting so his choice in posting is to belittle with the small mind comment which in reality exposes his small mind incapable making cohesive points besides copy pasting and to disparage folks. This is something people do when they need to makes themselves feel better about themselves.