Police Escort Off Property

[ua767fo]

Last Sunday, the last day for the IAM at DEN, at 9:00 am, all workers were told to go home. USAirways management in all of their arrogance, arranged for a dozen+ of Denver's finest police to escort them off the property. This is a fine way to treat people with 25+ years of loyal service.

This just proves what a bunch of immoral garbage dirt bags run the company. We are witnessing the implosion of a formerly great company. Ed Colodny no doubt is loosing sleep over seeing his name being associated with such a despicable bunch.

Good luck to all of the rampers from DEN. As I gaze across the ramp at the trash that replaced you, I shall always think fondly upon your service.

DENVER, CO

 

[PRINCESS KIDAGAKASH]

You call giving away the farm,the cow,and tractor "A DEAL"? :down:

 

[robbedagain]

i am willin to bet that the only deal in this whole sh!t was just simply to protect the ones in the big cities such as fll, phl, clt, lga, etc etc etc. all of these 30 or so cities with 600 or so employes i am willing to bet did vote no to outsourcing themselves. what a union the fleet service have or should say had. absolutely no protection from the loss of jobs just to protect where the real trouble is. good luck to all of the finest employes of den!

 

[700UW]

2. Managements final paybeck for what they feel were the unions lies and unwillingness to work towards a deal earlier thus possible avoiding BK. This scenario has Senior Operations Management all over it.

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You have some serious issues, there were no union lies to the company.

The lies were the company publicly declaring on this board they won't outsource maintenance then the whole airbus fiasco happened and you expect the IAM to go to the company and give back more when they can't even honor the current contracts?

And by the way, remember the IAM did win the airbus arbitration proving the company wrong.

 

[Headhunter]

You have some serious issues, there were no union lies to the company.

The lies were the company publicly declaring on this board they won't outsource maintenance then the whole airbus fiasco happened and you expect the IAM to go to the company and give back more when they can't even honor the current contracts?

And by the way, remember the IAM did win the airbus arbitration proving the company wrong.

[post="264371"][/post]​

Another lie from the company was last year when someone on here posted that they saw evidence about US establishing a call center in Manila. The company was quick to try and squash that rumor by saying that we utilize the services of General Sales Agents (GSAs) around the world, including the Philippines, and that was the case for Manila.

And now Kerry Carstairs is set to travel to Manila for a site visit in the next week or two. Ha!

If someone could please either find the original post or the US response... that would show that we NEVER FORGET.

 

[700UW]

Here is the lie that started the whole downfall of the labor-management relationship between the IAM and the company:

PITguy, I apologize for the delay. I haven't been online and just saw your note.
We are not going to outsource heavy maintenance in PIT or elsewhere. We never even proposed it. (Unlike UA which has proposed the outsourcing of heavy maintenance.)
We will pay all furlough pay as provided for in the contract.
We have no further plans to lay off more mechanics beyond what is published. With the new commitment to operate 279 a/c, we will need just about all the mechanics on the property to perform the maintenance we have scheduled, since our fleet plan anticipated retiring some planes that we will now be flying.
Finally, we are not trying to vendor maintenance with either Boeing or Airbus.
Chris Chiames

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[wnbubbleboy]

Another lie from the company was last year when someone on here posted that they saw evidence about US establishing a call center in Manila. The company was quick to try and squash that rumor by saying that we utilize the services of General Sales Agents (GSAs) around the world, including the Philippines, and that was the case for Manila.

And now Kerry Carstairs is set to travel to Manila for a site visit in the next week or two. Ha!

If someone could please either find the original post or the US response... that would show that we NEVER FORGET.

[post="264375"][/post]​

How could a company with US GOVERNMENT backed loans be allowed to outsource work overseas!? Christ, will somebody on the inside call 60 Minutes!

 

[jimntx]

How could a company with US GOVERNMENT backed loans be allowed to outsource work overseas!? Christ, will somebody on the inside call 60 Minutes!

[post="264389"][/post]​

Well, if you voted for the current Administration in Washington, you voted for the big business welfare act (not really a law, just an attitude and a way of operating). Sending jobs overseas helps big companies declare big dividends to the stockholders and bonusses to themselves for "enhancing shareholder value."

 

[700UW]

Where have you been?

The government promotes outsourcing.

NAFTA, FTAA, CAFTA, MFN.

Wake up, those trade deals are not good for the american worker, all they do is make the Companies more money while they layoff the American workers.

 

[aerosmith]

Hopefully in the end CCY will be replaced with AWA managment top to bottom. I like Tempe better anyway.

 

[calibrator]

This IMO is what you pay dues for. NOT Roach's quarter million dollar comp plan.

[post="264387"][/post]​

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Bob, 700 is only posting facts, and facts won't change the fact that union MEMERSHIP accepted everything that was shoved down their collective throats with just a "little" pissing and moaning, but accepted it they did, that is FACT. The leaders are NOT the membership and your huge hard on for the IAM and its leadership is a form of mental illness. The leaders are human and can only do some much given today’s apathy of all union membership nationwide. The union leadership will not be starting a fire under memberships butts anytime soon. Obviously people still have not had enough of the garbage corporate America is shoving down their throats. Until they are completely fed up and stand together as one united national labor force, blaming the union leadership for pervasive apathy is ridiculous. You need to make an appointment about your mental illness that is producing hatred of the IAM’s leadership.

 

[RowUnderDCA]

i am willin to bet that the only deal in this whole sh!t was just simply to protect the ones in the big cities such as fll, phl, clt, lga, etc etc etc. all of these 30 or so cities with 600 or so employes i am willing to bet did vote no to outsourcing themselves. what a union the fleet service have or should say had. absolutely no protection from the loss of jobs just to protect where the real trouble is. good luck to all of the finest employes of den!

[post="264367"][/post]​

I think the point was to provide flexibility in case of merger. Fewer employees mean fewer headaches.

 

[robbedagain]

I think the point was to provide flexibility in case of merger. Fewer employees mean fewer headaches.

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i do agree with you on this. i wonder if it would also make it easier to bypass the antitrust law thing

 

[RowUnderDCA]

i can't believe that anyone at U believes there could even be an antitrust concern with the mergers contemplated... it wouldn't have to do with employment anyway. I would argue that U's unions should be ready to argue to Parker that the some of the contracts should be cancelled and brought in house in a corporate combination, if one comes about.

 

[ua767fo]

Based on my indirect observations I think the IAM is an equally inbred, inept and ineffective organization that by implementing a 1950's style strategy in a 2005 world did it's members a huge disservice.

.............A great union would sieze the outsourcing of 600 workers and subsequent incident in DEN and use it to publicly embarass US Airways and bring the outsourcing issue to the evening news.

...........Will the IAM exploit this opportunity? IMO since it doesn't involve the collection of dues or enriching the top officers the answer would be no.

[post="264387"][/post]​

Bob,
You and I have had various disagreements before, but in this case you are right on the mark. My comments: the IAM has basically become a neutered pussy cat to negotiate with. They have no stregnth, or courage to do what is correct. Instead, they allow a vote on a final best offer, to "leave it up to the membership". The word is out, just dont negotiate with the IAM and you'll get a vote on whatever you want. IAM, your paid to represent and do tough things, you've failed. You acted like the spineless worm. You allowed the company to split your union.....big vs. little stations. In short your morally bankrupt garbage.

The IAM will never again be a great union. You have been defeated. At USAirways, at UAL, and soon at Boeing. And I suspect everything they do is to maximize their $$ intake. In short, they are in the business of represention, and like any business, maximize their continued $$ intake....and they did.

Disgusted in DEN, CO