PILOTS vote Yes

[IORFA]

FWAAA, the original pay raise was 18%. Then the extra 4% came into play. Which in turn was 4% on top of the added 18%. In the end came out to 23%ish. Not too shabby. So, yes. APA got the additional 4%.

 

[WorldTraveler]

feel free to send your comments to Terry Maxon. He usually does a pretty good job.

let's face it... $50 million isn't going to change much in the scope of $1 billion in new labor costs for 2015.

 

[FWAAA]

feel free to send your comments to Terry Maxon. He usually does a pretty good job.

let's face it... $50 million isn't going to change much in the scope of $1 billion in new labor costs for 2015.

That's a odd way for you to say "Sorry for being such an A-hole and correcting you when I was wrong," but I'll accept your half-assed apology anyway.

You'd have more friends if you didn't emulate 700UW so often. Like you, he seems to revel in "correcting" people when his corrections are not accurate. I fact-check my posts, and this place would be better off if you did as well.

 

[FWAAA]

FWAAA, the original pay raise was 18%. Then the extra 4% came into play. Which in turn was 4% on top of the added 18%. In the end came out to 23%ish. Not too shabby. So, yes. APA got the additional 4%.

Thanks!

 

[IORFA]

That's a odd way for you to say "Sorry for being such an A-hole and correcting you when I was wrong," but I'll accept your half-assed apology anyway.You'd have more friends if you didn't emulate 700UW so often. Like you, he seems to revel in "correcting" people when his corrections are not accurate. I fact-check my posts, and this place would be better off if you did as well.

It would be better around here if everyone put WT on ignore!

 

[Hope777]

Interesting that PHX was OVER 90% YES
 
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2015/01/american-airlines-captains-liked-new-contract-more-than-first-officers-did.html/

 

[eolesen]

It would be better around here if everyone put WT on ignore!

Who?... (30 days of enjoying the forums now that I don't have to see WT' tripe aside from what gets quoted...)

Congrats to the pilots for getting it right, and putting the Real Men of Genius in their place. Again.

 

[Phoenix]

Using your logic, why didn't they do something to get the F/A's to vote yes if they were monitoring the count the whole time? Same reason. They didn't need to. Although, for a different reason than you think. The arbitrated contract would have been better for the company as well. When you wn either way, why would you think they would negotiate against themselves?

 
 
They DID sweeten the FA contract DURING the vote...  

 

[Art at ISP]

Congratulations to the pilot group, and best wishes moving forward. One imagines the hard part is still ahead of you.
 
My BEST to you all....

 

[IORFA]

They DID sweeten the FA contract DURING the vote...

If you're talking about the limp 40, I wouldn't call that a sweetner. It was still there, just calculated differently AND they added an employment threshold. At best, it was a draw. To each his own. Again, it didn't help.

 

[AANOTOK]

feel free to send your comments to Terry Maxon. He usually does a pretty good job.

let's face it... $50 million isn't going to change much in the scope of $1 billion in new labor costs for 2015.

Be a man sometime...just once!

 

[Phoenix]

If you're talking about the limp 40, I wouldn't call that a sweetner. It was still there, just calculated differently AND they added an employment threshold. At best, it was a draw. To each his own. Again, it didn't help.

 
They made a change during the vote.  In this day and age there is more than enough intel on where a vote is heading.  Glass missed it by 9 votes.  So fire him.  

 

[bigjets]

Nice to see the pilots aren't as emotional as the FA's. Hopefully the machinists follow the pilots example.

 

[WorldTraveler]

That's a odd way for you to say "Sorry for being such an A-hole and correcting you when I was wrong," but I'll accept your half-assed apology anyway.

You'd have more friends if you didn't emulate 700UW so often. Like you, he seems to revel in "correcting" people when his corrections are not accurate. I fact-check my posts, and this place would be better off if you did as well.

no, it means that I cited a published source. If you would like to argue that the published source is wrong, that is fine.

By citing the original document, you made your point.

you lowered yourself to the exact level you accuse others of when you couldn't just note that the source was incorrect and post the accurate source text.

what you and dozens of other people on here can't stand is that I really do read the source documents and transcripts a whole lot more than you wish I did since I find so much stuff that you would like to sweep under the rug.

and specific to this discussion, AA's labor costs have already gone up more than $1B on a annualized basis since the merger which means that Parker, like I said he would, has undone everything AA did in BK to get its labor costs down.

If the merger was producing the revenue results that he said it would, that would be fine. But not only is the merger nowhere close to being finished - and labor is only part of the process - but there are still a couple billion dollars difference in what AA is doing or can do to the bottom line compared to its peers.

so, yes, I am glad for the pilots despite the work rule changes that they accepted.

AA's costs are rapidly rising well ahead of its revenues.

and it wasn't lost on Wall Street that approval of the AA pilot contract came on the day that oil prices took their biggest jump in months.

 

[A320 Driver]

Nice to see the pilots aren't as emotional as the FA's. Hopefully the machinists follow the pilots example.

Oh they are emotional alright...some are squealing like stuck pigs because they didn't get their NO vote.