Pilots not allowed to have enough fuel?

[phlus2]

This is an outrage , the pilots should have taken this up with the FAA , not the general public …

Your literally helping to kill our company …


You must be stopped .

Desparate times call for desparate measures - on both sides in this case.

 

[NiceLandingCaptain]

I think the company went overboard with the training of the 8 captains involved. Individual counselling would have been far more prudent.

But what usap has done with their ad is even more of an immature, knee jerk (and expensive) reaction - and they were completely disingenuous with the verbage they used. Nobody is being asked to reduce fuel load - they are being asked why they need to carry more. And nobody is going to lose their career in the simulator. That statement is pure unadultrated FUD - usap should be ashamed of themselves.

After this little broohaha, whenever a nervous passenger shows up and wishes to speak to the Captain, there will be an additional question we will all have to answer:

Is this plane safe? Yes.

How is he weather? Fine.

Have you been drinking? No, I don't ever drink.

Do you have enough fuel? No, not according to usap.........

 

[88 B.T.D.]

I am a former US Airways pilot with no plans to currently return, but I must say the advertisement did give some degree of credibility back to my former group among aviators from other groups that I have communicated with since yesterday.

 

[ussnark]

I’ll guess that so is USAPA.

I, for one, am happy to see the pilots, after cowering under ALPA, finally stand on their own feet. They are asserting safety, an unassailable position, something ALPA always seemed afraid to bring up.

 

[freedom]

I am a former US Airways pilot with no plans to currently return, but I must say the advertisement did give some degree of credibility back to my former group among aviators from other groups that I have communicated with since yesterday.

You mean the ranks of the unemployed ?

Perhaps you were communicating with some of the pilots from the other industries who are still out on furlough from 9/11 ? or were these folk from the new ranks of furloughed pilots from the fuel/economic crisis that’s now going on ?

 

[oldiebutgoody]

You mean the ranks of the unemployed ?

Perhaps you were communicating with some of the pilots from the other industries who are still out on furlough from 9/11 ? or were these folk from the new ranks of furloughed pilots from the fuel/economic crisis that’s now going on ?

So, was your castration painful?

 

[freedom]

I don’t know , was your lobotomy was painful ?

 

[luvthe9]

This is an outrage , the pilots should have taken this up with the FAA , not the general public …

Your literally helping to kill our company …


You must be stopped .

It was and is being taken up by the FAA, plus the company new this was going to happen over a week ago, this AWA management team is going to kill us all.

 

[freedom]

It was and is being taken up by the FAA, plus the company new this was going to happen over a week ago, this AWA management team is going to kill us all.

No , something’s very wrong with your logic …

Your not flying that unsafe , otherwise you wouldn’t fly at all ….

You should have waited to resolve this with the FAA quietly or focused on putting more pressure and attention on the FAA instead of us airways … at the worst you should have taken out an add putting blame on the FAA not us airways ….

If you keep up with these publicity stunts your going to put us out of business completely . With more than 2 billion dollars more of bill’s this year the company can’t afford to pay you a dime more than what your making .. that’s a cold hard , inescapable reality , if you can’t face that fact you should look for jobs somewhere else … no all you’ve done is raise the specter and the necessity of this company clamping down on you

. This backfired , it’s going to cost you , it’s going to cost all of us …

 

[oldiebutgoody]

I don’t know , was your lobotomy was painful ?

You obviously have me mistaken for someone else. I assure you, I am quite capable of clear, original thought, as well as having the cajones to do what is right and to stand up for it.

Unlike some of the posters here, who think that whatever misinformed policies are implemented should just be complied with, without regard to what's right.

The article does not imply that the company is unsafe, that would be incorrect. It does, however, highlight some issues which should have been addressed outside of the media, but the company apparently refused. If anything, I think that the public will view this in a good light, because it shows that the operators of the equipment DO care and ARE looking at the recent economic conditions with the proper amount of scepticism.

I can tell you that I have never operated, or witnessed an aircraft being operated, in anything but a safe, efficient manner. All this BS about pilots trying to cost the company money and other things is just that, BS.

While I may agree that using the media is heavy handed, the company apparently had an opportunity to head this off, and did not. I guess they know now that USAPA will do what it says, unlike any previous CBA the pilots may have had.

 

[maddawg]

If you keep up with these publicity stunts your going to put us out of business completely .

Then you can go somewhere else and drink another flavor of Kool-Aide , Yummy !

 

[luvthe9]

No , something’s very wrong with your logic …

Your not flying that unsafe , otherwise you wouldn’t fly at all ….

You are correct, did you even watch the show last night and read the USA today article, you seem to be missing the point. I guess your not a pilot?

 

[InternationalShannon]

Then you can go somewhere else and drink another flavor of Kool-Aide , Yummy !

:mf_boff:

 

[luvthe9]

Sorry double post, my bad

 

[freedom]

You obviously have me mistaken for someone else. I assure you, I am quite capable of clear, original thought, as well as having the cajones to do what is right and to stand up for it.

Unlike some of the posters here, who think that whatever misinformed policies are implemented should just be complied with, without regard to what's right.

The article does not imply that the company is unsafe, that would be incorrect. It does, however, highlight some issues which should have been addressed outside of the media, but the company apparently refused. If anything, I think that the public will view this in a good light, because it shows that the operators of the equipment DO care and ARE looking at the recent economic conditions with the proper amount of scepticism.

I can tell you that I have never operated, or witnessed an aircraft being operated, in anything but a safe, efficient manner. All this BS about pilots trying to cost the company money and other things is just that, BS.

While I may agree that using the media is heavy handed, the company apparently had an opportunity to head this off, and did not. I guess they know now that USAPA will do what it says, unlike any previous CBA the pilots may have had.

Yawn ….

Bla blab la … USAPA has teeth .. that’s all your trying to say … but you have no teeth grandpa .. their gone , oil and the economy stole them ..


Heavy-handed ? ah hahaha idiotic is more like it … that add cost what 100 k something of your union dues to place? I’m sure whoever placed it must have given it a lot of thought .. and that frightens me because it shows your union leaders aren’t that bright …

Stupid people can be brave … but their still stupid , and that makes them dangerous …



In this era of dying business , we’re fighting for every last pax we can acquire so we can stay in business … your add is working against our ability to stay in business … your effectively trying to put yourselves and the rest of us out of jobs during what is most likely to be one of the worst recessions in memory ….

Someone needs to stop you before you hurt yourselves … you’re the type of kids that should only be given the safety siccors and not allowed to run with them at that …