Piedmont A/C in CLT
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I don't think we can blame less than perfect retro paint jobs on the sandcastle. At least the sandcastle decided to have the retro planes after all. CCY told employees that PI, PS, and AL, as well as Empire and Lake Central/Turner, were dead, and that all that matters is USAir.
The only reason the HP plane is perfect because all they did is take a brand new America West plane, fly it to Roswell, and paint white over the AMERICA WEST, then add US Airways...so of course the livery looks perfect. It was never totally repainted.
If they tried to recreate the original 1983 HP colors on a fresh canvas, I'm sure they'd botch that as well.
I am all for perfect PSA, Piedmont and AL retro planes, however these liveries haven't been flying for decades. Trying to paint them on airplanes (Airbusses) that the original companies never operated, 20-30 years later, is bound to result in errors.
They screwed up the PSA and Allegheny planes, and fixed them. They look great now! I can't help but smile when I see the PSA plane on final!
And, they're fixing the PI plane.
I'm just thrilled that they're recognizing our heritage.
The only reason the HP plane is perfect because all they did is take a brand new America West plane, fly it to Roswell, and paint white over the AMERICA WEST, then add US Airways...so of course the livery looks perfect. It was never totally repainted.
If they tried to recreate the original 1983 HP colors on a fresh canvas, I'm sure they'd botch that as well.
I am all for perfect PSA, Piedmont and AL retro planes, however these liveries haven't been flying for decades. Trying to paint them on airplanes (Airbusses) that the original companies never operated, 20-30 years later, is bound to result in errors.
They screwed up the PSA and Allegheny planes, and fixed them. They look great now! I can't help but smile when I see the PSA plane on final!
And, they're fixing the PI plane.
I'm just thrilled that they're recognizing our heritage.
Diamondbacks2004
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Dog Wonder
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Unfortunately, reaching the level of learning from mistakes is still beyond the grasp of the people admitting them.
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luvn737s
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Poor 700. He can't distinguish between delusion and earned loyalty. But you gotta admire someone who puts so much effort into being negative in such a positive environment.
Wait, on second thought, no you don't.
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Can you not add to the topic instead of being obsessed with me?
Bottom line is it is going to cost US extra money to fix the PI plane as it did the AL plane.
If regular employees can see it is clearly wrong, why can't the six and seven figured compensated executives see the same problem?
Now put down the koolade.
Bottom line is it is going to cost US extra money to fix the PI plane as it did the AL plane.
If regular employees can see it is clearly wrong, why can't the six and seven figured compensated executives see the same problem?
Now put down the koolade.
robbedagain
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according to justplanenews, US will put it back into shop and repaint the PI plane. It will be rescheduled to celebrat in late june
i e-mailed elise eberwien on it. she is the funniest person . i have met her on a few occasions. anyway,. this was here answer to my e-mail it will be fixed
A: Yes, very aware that we're having trouble getting these right. The person responsible will be fired immediately, go on unemployment and end up living in a van down by the river (aka Matt the Motivational Speaker .. remember Chris Farley on SNL)?
Ok, I'll stop.
The person responsible is embarressed and we will fix....the reality is that between the deisgn folks and mx, mistakes happen, especially with something as subjective as this...so I'm sorry it is messed up yet again. We'll get it fixed. Hope you are well! Elise
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 8:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: peidmont plane
Q:elise.
it's #####. i saw the peidmont plane in clt today. it looks nice. 2 things though. the color is off and the "a319" identifier was not painted on the tail. i know that it's going back to the paint shop to get a darker shade of blue applied on it but is the " a319" identifier gonna be put on under neath the peidmont logo on the tail? most of the peidmont jets had the a/c identifier painted on the lower part of the tail. who is doing the painting on these birds? they messed up all three and all three had to get re-done . well actually 2 since the psa bird only had the smile messed up. dosent this cost money? is someone gonna get a slap on the hand for this? lol.
take care,
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A: Yes, very aware that we're having trouble getting these right. The person responsible will be fired immediately, go on unemployment and end up living in a van down by the river (aka Matt the Motivational Speaker .. remember Chris Farley on SNL)?
Ok, I'll stop.
The person responsible is embarressed and we will fix....the reality is that between the deisgn folks and mx, mistakes happen, especially with something as subjective as this...so I'm sorry it is messed up yet again. We'll get it fixed. Hope you are well! Elise
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 8:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: peidmont plane
Q:elise.
it's #####. i saw the peidmont plane in clt today. it looks nice. 2 things though. the color is off and the "a319" identifier was not painted on the tail. i know that it's going back to the paint shop to get a darker shade of blue applied on it but is the " a319" identifier gonna be put on under neath the peidmont logo on the tail? most of the peidmont jets had the a/c identifier painted on the lower part of the tail. who is doing the painting on these birds? they messed up all three and all three had to get re-done . well actually 2 since the psa bird only had the smile messed up. dosent this cost money? is someone gonna get a slap on the hand for this? lol.
take care,
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Ok lets go over a few things.
First of all no rank and file employees under the CBAs have really anything to do with the repainting or painting of the planes. If a regular worker screwed up three times two being major they would be shown the door, but of course that does not happen to management.
Let go over this.
1. HP Heritage plane comes from Airbus in the HP livery, goes to Roswell just for a few cosmetic changes.
2. PSA Plane is painted I believe by AvEx in New Iberia, LA, the smile is wrong, ok not a big deal but if you were in charge of the program wouldn't you pay a bit more due diligence to ensure he next plane is done correctly?
3. AL plane come back from AvEx, cheatlines wrong and logo too small.
Strike two, ok so you send the PI plane to get painted, wouldn't a good management team and the Executive overseeing the program take more hands on control to ensure the next plane is done correctly?
4. PI plane comes back and is done worse then the AL plane, color totally off and no Plane Designator on the tail.
Now if I was an Executive I can see one mistake being ok, but look at this, the AL plane's mistakes are more severe then the PSA plane and then after those mistakes the PI plane's livery is totally screwed up.
Now someone has to be held accountable, if this management team is serious about saving money and running a profitable airline, three mistakes in the same program is not acceptable. Anyone in charge should have paid more attention to detail after mistakes were made on two previous paintings.
Bottom line is management takes care of management, but boy if this was a regular employee they would have been shown the door.
First of all no rank and file employees under the CBAs have really anything to do with the repainting or painting of the planes. If a regular worker screwed up three times two being major they would be shown the door, but of course that does not happen to management.
Let go over this.
1. HP Heritage plane comes from Airbus in the HP livery, goes to Roswell just for a few cosmetic changes.
2. PSA Plane is painted I believe by AvEx in New Iberia, LA, the smile is wrong, ok not a big deal but if you were in charge of the program wouldn't you pay a bit more due diligence to ensure he next plane is done correctly?
3. AL plane come back from AvEx, cheatlines wrong and logo too small.
Strike two, ok so you send the PI plane to get painted, wouldn't a good management team and the Executive overseeing the program take more hands on control to ensure the next plane is done correctly?
4. PI plane comes back and is done worse then the AL plane, color totally off and no Plane Designator on the tail.
Now if I was an Executive I can see one mistake being ok, but look at this, the AL plane's mistakes are more severe then the PSA plane and then after those mistakes the PI plane's livery is totally screwed up.
Now someone has to be held accountable, if this management team is serious about saving money and running a profitable airline, three mistakes in the same program is not acceptable. Anyone in charge should have paid more attention to detail after mistakes were made on two previous paintings.
Bottom line is management takes care of management, but boy if this was a regular employee they would have been shown the door.
RowUnderDCA
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I still think that the logo in promotional printed material may have been that color.
allunionsdeceive
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It"s not one person doing it. It's a team of a few people so they can make a few more with no harm to their job. I also know few people under the a few different labor groupes that still work here after more than 3 screw ups. The good thing is that they will fix it and make all of the Heritage plane looking right.
