New Attendance program

[stockinluv]

Why does everyone keep talking like calling in sick and taking a vacation day is the same thing?
Calling in sick when you are scheduled to work just to get a day off is not a right. It's wrong! period! those who practise this burden the company and their fellow workers. If it's a Holiday and you can't get off, Take your medicine like a man and go to work. better yet why don't the unions agree to pay the company back any lost money due to phony sick calls. i think this would cut down the abuse because the funds would come from their members pockets anfd there would be no need for a point system

 

[Dog Wonder]

With the company running a deeply cut schedule on Thanksgiving, why would they care if employees called off when there is no work anyway?

Make Thanksgiving an actual holiday for the front-line.

Instead of just management.

 

[Old Guy]

With the company running a deeply cut schedule on Thanksgiving, why would they care if employees called off when there is no work anyway?

Make Thanksgiving an actual holiday for the front-line.

Instead of just management.

<_< With the company wide posting of a cut schedule, your local management should reduce the required head count. Your contract should reflect this,and your shop steward should inquire.But not all will be off. Front line work is 24/7. And holiday pay is in effect. And seniority would rule.

 

[The Bagfather]

sorry dup post.

 

[The Bagfather]

Why does everyone keep talking like calling in sick and taking a vacation day is the same thing?
Calling in sick when you are scheduled to work just to get a day off is not a right. It's wrong! period! those who practise this burden the company and their fellow workers. If it's a Holiday and you can't get off, Take your medicine like a man and go to work. better yet why don't the unions agree to pay the company back any lost money due to phony sick calls. i think this would cut down the abuse because the funds would come from their members pockets anfd there would be no need for a point system

Stock: Excelent post. Your sence of morality is absolute and IMO completely
justified and well founded, However this is not the spirit in which our contract
was negotiated. The company may have feigned a beflief that this was how
sic k time was to be viewed, But this is simply not how it is used both in our
company proctically any other place of work in the US and in Europe.

I have brought up the example of the CA teachers. I hope that most of them
do not regard their sick time as "free vacation" but they do use it liberally.
for any number of reasons including being over worked, feeling sick etc.
They can also get time off for personnel buisiness and that I do assume is
used at times for more or less vacation time. This is on top of about
18 weeks of actual vacation.

The points is if the company wants to increase productivity they cant attempt
to rob us of what we got fairly in our negotiations. Let them link sick time
with attendence problems alll they want but shouldn't we as a group get something
inm return for this change.

As pure and as absolute as your regard the morality around calling in sick, I would
apply the same standard to the company and their treatment of a binding contract.
And IMO they are "calling in sick" big time with this new strategy.

Here's another brainstorm idea which to me is absurd but it does put the problem
into what I believe is the correct context. Have the company pay the unions to
enforce a real sick policy. If they are able to get people to not call in sick when
they aren't then put all the money they save into a strike fund for FS and CSR.

Thanks BF

 

[stockinluv]

Good point Bagfather.

what about abolishing the sick time program totally and negotiate a personal day off program that can be used for anything not just sick time. maybe even have a limit on the amount of last minute call ins to minimize to impact on the company? folks would have to budget their time off as usual and not squander it all away by the first half of the year and then have to scheme to get more time off with pay. wich IMO is unfair to the others who buget the vacation time

Stock: Excelent post. Your sence of morality is absolute and IMO completely
justified and well founded, However this is not the spirit in which our contract
was negotiated. The company may have feigned a beflief that this was how
sic k time was to be viewed, But this is simply not how it is used both in our
company proctically any other place of work in the US and in Europe.

I have brought up the example of the CA teachers. I hope that most of them
do not regard their sick time as "free vacation" but they do use it liberally.
for any number of reasons including being over worked, feeling sick etc.
They can also get time off for personnel buisiness and that I do assume is
used at times for more or less vacation time. This is on top of about
18 weeks of actual vacation.

The points is if the company wants to increase productivity they cant attempt
to rob us of what we got fairly in our negotiations. Let them link sick time
with attendence problems alll they want but shouldn't we as a group get something
inm return for this change.

As pure and as absolute as your regard the morality around calling in sick, I would
apply the same standard to the company and their treatment of a binding contract.
And IMO they are "calling in sick" big time with this new strategy.

Here's another brainstorm idea which to me is absurd but it does put the problem
into what I believe is the correct context. Have the company pay the unions to
enforce a real sick policy. If they are able to get people to not call in sick when
they aren't then put all the money they save into a strike fund for FS and CSR.

Thanks BF

 

[Tim Nelson]

Why does everyone keep talking like calling in sick and taking a vacation day is the same thing?
Calling in sick when you are scheduled to work just to get a day off is not a right. It's wrong! period! those who practise this burden the company and their fellow workers. If it's a Holiday and you can't get off, Take your medicine like a man and go to work. better yet why don't the unions agree to pay the company back any lost money due to phony sick calls. i think this would cut down the abuse because the funds would come from their members pockets anfd there would be no need for a point system

Let me see if I got this right.

US AIRWAYS cuts 5 days of vacation but adds 7 sick days a year for its employees but then finds out it can't police its very own sick policy so it wants to restrict the usage of those sick days.

I got an idea, if the company wants productivity gains then the company can take back those 7 additional days per year it gives fleet service but give fleet service back that vacation week it took. Do you think that will sound absurd to the company? Of course because there is no respect for fleet as a result of Canale's Klan. But the company will realize 'soon enough' that the New Direction team isn't the Canale bell ringers but more akin to "The Dirty Dozen'.

Here's something that doesn't sound so absurd to me, stick the new policy where it belongs because we have an agreement and this is non-negotiable. Send the letter already, putting the company on notice of the workers stance against this profanity.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[orioleman]

hear ya loud and clear Tim,

Unfortunately .. one of the Canale left overs Mark W. has the mind set and I quote "the company can do what they want "

the count down has begun on his tenure..

 

[Harry Callahan]

There is no off the clock for the CEO. He is the face of the company. He was at a golf tournament representing USAir..ways. Goes with job and salary.

Just bad judgement ..IMHO

A BIG +1. He was representing USAIRWAYS.

 

[Harry Callahan]

<_< With the company wide posting of a cut schedule, your local management should reduce the required head count. Your contract should reflect this,and your shop steward should inquire.But not all will be off. Front line work is 24/7. And holiday pay is in effect. And seniority would rule.

This is being done in CLT.

 

[tea42]

anyone got any news??? whats happening in your cty?? Lets roll...let your district know how unhappy you are!!!!!

 

[tea42]

might be a delay with program...any one else hearing this?

Wonder if they are coming up with a point program for non union represented employees and management??? LOL

 

[orioleman]

could have something to do with .... well A VIOLATION OF OUR CONTRACT (FLEET SERVICE)

 

[Black Magic]

anyone got any news??? whats happening in your cty?? Lets roll...let your district know how unhappy you are!!!!!

I know in phx nothing is going on. Crickets chirping all that comes to mind

 

[goodfellow]

hear ya loud and clear Tim,

Unfortunately .. one of the Canale left overs Mark W. has the mind set and I quote "the company can do what they want "

the count down has begun on his tenure..

Update: MC and NH will be in PHX on MONDAY to adress attendance policy! GF says at 10am PHX time lets show some solidarity and rally visible for 10 minutes in every station?