New Attendance program

[Tim Nelson]

It's been a month since these new union leaders got in so has any members seen the new leaders written position on the attendance control? I know there has been talk but if anyone has seen anything on print then please share it. The IAM website looks like it has shut down and has not been updated for quite a while.

The membership is in sore need of a written position from the union leadership to the members. As workers are being asked to take test, sign other forms, etc., there has been nothing written from the leadership 'to the members'. I realize the new folks have just been sworn in but we all know this issue should be front and center and on written form by now for members to know what to do when their manager approaches them about revisiting past occurances. I know there has been chatter between Local Chairman and AGC's but this in itself isn't good enough. Something must be written and posted so everyone can be clear on the union's position and potential action.

Let's get this done fellas!

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[necigrad]

nec, your missing the point, no matter who you are during certain holiday periods defined by the comapny you will be docked 2 points. It just so happens most of that time is christian holidays. Its apparen that if you call in around Ramadan for example you wont be docked two points why is that?

You're right, most of that time is during Christian holidays, as well as Jewish, Kwanzan, and Pagan ones. But MY point is that the Comany is not choosing these dates based on religion. If you really think that you've got issues. EVERYONE knows that there is an increase in absenteeism during these periods. For the Company to be discriminatory they would need to be doing this specifically to target a religious group or groups. They're not.

EDIT: Another thought. you folks are claiming discrimination against Christians. Fine, let's just say, for the sake of discussion, that you're right. Religion has nothing to do with illness!!! If you call in, it MUST be to care for an illness of yourself or a family member. It's got nothing to do with religion.

 

[b737200]

It's been a month since these new union leaders got in so has any members seen the new leaders written position on the attendance control? I know there has been talk but if anyone has seen anything on print then please share it. The IAM website looks like it has shut down and has not been updated for quite a while.

I am in agreement with the Janitor, A written statement signed by the general chairman and all the Usair agc's need to be posted. The interim is over, it's time to work, that's what these guy's are getting paid for.
I hope the General Chairman has not become a lapdog for Big Al, it's to early in the game.
The membership needs the leaderships direction, NOW.

From a movie of the past....." There seems to be a lack of communication, don't you think Luke".

Union leadership----- Cheap suites let Al have his way, it's time for a fight, that's why you were voted in, don't disappoint the people who pay your salaries.

 

[tea42]

EDIT: Another thought. you folks are claiming discrimination against Christians. Fine, let's just say, for the sake of discussion, that you're right. Religion has nothing to do with illness!!! If you call in, it MUST be to care for an illness of yourself or a family member. It's got nothing to do with religion.
you are right...religion has nada to do with an illness so why did the company even bring it friggin up????????????????

DISCRIMINATION AGAINST CHRISTIANS

 

[Rogue Rat]

Necigrad
The policy is discriminatory. I have friends that will be calling in Jan 19th. They do so every year about the same time. Will that be treated any different that any other day of the year? Its even a paid holiday this year.

 

[Jester]

EDIT: Another thought. you folks are claiming discrimination against Christians. Fine, let's just say, for the sake of discussion, that you're right. Religion has nothing to do with illness!!! If you call in, it MUST be to care for an illness of yourself or a family member. It's got nothing to do with religion.
you are right...religion has nada to do with an illness so why did the company even bring it friggin up????????????????

DISCRIMINATION AGAINST CHRISTIANS

What RELIGIOUS holiday falls around July 4th or Thanksgiving? Those two holidays are also subject to a 2-point penalty, so it is not discrimination against Christians, but rather it faces the reality most people in this country, even the non-religious people celebrate Christmas, if nothing more than a gathering of friends and family. It just so happens Management is just reviewing the sick calls and their respective days and building a policy around the peak sick days.

I still do not much care for this policy, but I recall my prior occupations even if one was sick on holidays, the employee still needed to show-up and if green around the gills, the manager would send the person home upon request (unsure as to the manager's medical background though). Otherwise, be prepared to bring doctor's note, hospital admission slip, or E.R. documentation if one can't even make it into work to make an appearance.

So Views Jester.

 

[goodfellow]

The membership is in sore need of a written position from the union leadership to the members. As workers are being asked to take test, sign other forms, etc., there has been nothing written from the leadership 'to the members'. I realize the new folks have just been sworn in but we all know this issue should be front and center and on written form by now for members to know what to do when their manager approaches them about revisiting past occurances. I know there has been chatter between Local Chairman and AGC's but this in itself isn't good enough. Something must be written and posted so everyone can be clear on the union's position and potential action.

Let's get this done fellas!

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

The letter from the PDGC will be out soon, this letter clearly states the Union position, which is against the point system. Two AGC'S were in PHL thursday going breakroom to breakroom explaining the Union position. The Union is meeting next week with the Company (no exact date set) to be briefed on the whole system for the first time. They then will present the Union position, and will tell the company to STOP! This point system is in violation of the Fleet CBA in atleast 5 areas! Best Regards GF

 

[The Janitor]

The membership is in sore need of a written position from the union leadership to the members. As workers are being asked to take test, sign other forms, etc., there has been nothing written from the leadership 'to the members'. I realize the new folks have just been sworn in but we all know this issue should be front and center and on written form by now for members to know what to do when their manager approaches them about revisiting past occurances. I know there has been chatter between Local Chairman and AGC's but this in itself isn't good enough. Something must be written and posted so everyone can be clear on the union's position and potential action.

Let's get this done fellas!

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

I hope that your New Direction officers from United, including Delaney don't continue slanting everything United's way while not giving the US AIRWAYS membership the support it needs. How many stations does United have? How many AGC's? What about US AIRWAYS?

 

[mike33]

The letter from the PDGC will be out soon, this letter clearly states the Union position, which is against the point system. Two AGC'S were in PHL thursday going breakroom to breakroom explaining the Union position. The Union is meeting next week with the Company (no exact date set) to be briefed on the whole system for the first time. They then will present the Union position, and will tell the company to STOP! This point system is in violation of the Fleet CBA in atleast 5 areas! Best Regards GF

Article 1 29 - Amendments to this Agreement
2
3 Either party hereto may, at any time, propose in writing to the other
4 party an amendment(s), which they may desire. For such amendment
5 to be valid there must be written agreement between the Vice
6 President, Labor Relations, and the Designated Union official.
7 Amendments made in any other manner will not be recognized. This
8 would include letters of interpretation, whether local or systemwide


" SHOW US THE LETTER " ( Labor Relations ) Wouldn't that be something if it had Randys name on it

 

[OldGuyinPA]

Hey if we're to have a point system, lets be fair about it.

How about our zero tolerance for alcohol. Seems to me that Doug should have been terminated...years ago...12 points.

 

[Harry Callahan]

What the above poster said what's fair for one is fair for all .

 

[Tim Nelson]

I hope that your New Direction officers from United, including Delaney don't continue slanting everything United's way while not giving the US AIRWAYS membership the support it needs. How many stations does United have? How many AGC's? What about US AIRWAYS?

It will be up to your AGC's to be able to unpack the issues, stay focused and doggedly determined to see action on them, and communicate effectively in furthering the interest of the US AIRWAYS members, otherwise the representation will continue to look like the messenger [90% United, 10% US AIRWAYS]. The new attendance profanity will be a good test and I'm pretty sure you'll like the position that your AGC"s will hold to. Remember, if Canale was in, this wouldn't even be up for topic as Canale would basically just agree with the company.

To be sure, Rich listens and is no Canale, and your new AGC's aren't 'bell ringers' that don't have the collective gonads. I can tell you as someone who coordinated the New Direction campaign that I had disagreements with Rich and effectively communicated with him while I understood the issues, and we wrestled through in a non-arrogant fashion with egos aside to find solutions that advanced the cause. This is how you do it. That could never be done with Canale, who has alot of arrogance and not enough academia. Rich is very intelligent and understands the issues well and I have found that engaging with him intelligently, while understanding the agenda and issues, produces good outcomes for all.

regards,
Tim Nelson
IAM Local Chairman, 1487, Chicago

 

[URPIUSHPUS]

Hey if we're to have a point system, lets be fair about it.

How about our zero tolerance for alcohol. Seems to me that Doug should have been terminated...years ago...12 points.

I think it's zero tolerance for alcohol/drugs on the job. If you are going to terminate Doug for drinking while off the clock, how many of our other employees would have to hit the road for termination due to drinking infractions while not at work? Not so much as the drugs, since they stay in the system longer.

Not judging either way, just questioning your reasoning. :blink:

 

[OldGuyinPA]

There is no off the clock for the CEO. He is the face of the company. He was at a golf tournament representing USAir..ways. Goes with job and salary.

Just bad judgement ..IMHO

 

[perserverance]

You can clearly see the posters' who have an ill will
directed at the ND 08" team. I wanted Canale out and
I'm happy with him no longer in a position to do harm
to our work group but I will also remain vigilant on eye'n
the ND 08' team, and this attendance policy is thier first
test in the waters of a ''boys club'' US company. Randy
made alot of bad deals and for him to be defended or go
away and fortgotten is wrong. He made alot of $$ by selling
our futures' to a corporate money maker. His history stained
the union and we being the union are on a path to clean that
stain.

The attendance policy is a push, lets see how we push back.