More Time for Judge Lane

[NYer]

Looks like we're getting sent into Mediation with another 2nd District Court Judge (according to the Star-Telegram). That cannot be good!

 

[Buck]

[q] Bean Counter ignorance, nowhere to get your work outsourced but threatening to do so. [/q]

Arrogance!

 

[Birdman]

[q] Bean Counter ignorance, nowhere to get your work outsourced but threatening to do so.[q/]

Arrogance!

Overspeed claims there's plenty of MRO capacity to do our work. Someone is misinformed.

 

[OldGuy@AA]

Then turn in your resignations

I'd rather turn in a little green card. Besides, I'd hate to see you move up the seniority list.

 

[Frank Szabo]

Sometimes I wonder just how much talant AA is getting ready to lose.

DAMMIT - when are you going to learn? We couldn't possibly have any talent - we are bricks! Jeffey Brundage said so - that is Gospel. Get that through your thick head!!

We, of the great unwashed masses, must learn our place in society and defer to those who have been edumacated as accountants and other counters of beans holding their MBAs. Simply because these people have no suspicion as to the function of such an archaic item as a wrench in no way has any effect on their value.

Quit blaming management for our troubles - forgive them, as they know not what they do.

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[swamt]

Not as much in quanity yet, but a heck of a lot in quality talent. The real good ones are trickling out the door to Southwest and elsewhere. Those who haven't yet, are also looking to leave. Many really good mechanics at the base here are going to leave the industry all together when it shuts down.

Hey Tex-Mech,
SWA just posted 5 more "new" positions in Dallas for the 4th line of maint. Check Southwest.com numerous times daily. If and when these positions go "unsuccessful bid" SWA will then post externally on Southwest.com. The current bid #57-12 will close on 5-23-12. Good luck to you all. A little birdie has said they will try and accomodate the A&P mechs applying from the rifs at Alliance. I have heard the best times to watch for the external postings are from 7am to 12 noon. They usually only post the positions for a couple of hours due to the enormous amount of applicants applying. I will post this in a new thread as well, so all can see...

 

[Tex-Mech]

Hey Tex-Mech,
SWA just posted 5 more "new" positions in Dallas for the 4th line of maint. Check Southwest.com numerous times daily. If and when these positions go "unsuccessful bid" SWA will then post externally on Southwest.com. The current bid #57-12 will close on 5-23-12. Good luck to you all. A little birdie has said they will try and accomodate the A&P mechs applying from the rifs at Alliance. I have heard the best times to watch for the external postings are from 7am to 12 noon. They usually only post the positions for a couple of hours due to the enormous amount of applicants applying. I will post this in a new thread as well, so all can see...

Thanks for the info

 

[Flying low]

I'd rather turn in a little green card. Besides, I'd hate to see you move up the seniority list.

Delete

 

[Overspeed]

Well thats not what I heard him say, and so far I've sat through three days.

The Delta NWA merger took place in BK. Heard Akins say that yesterday.

As far as a USAIR business plan they would need access to AAs info, and they dont have it so they cant make a business plan.

Oh and as far as the TWU agreeing to a USAIR deal, like I've said before "I could care less who writes the check, I just care how much its made out for." I wouldnt agree to a concessionary deal for USAIR either.

Sitting there and listening are two different things.

Akins did not say that. He said that the merger happened after and they both emerged from BK before they merged. Look it up Bob.

The point is that all the unions agreed to concessions with US Air that AA wanted in the past. Both the APA and APFA admitted that in court. If you were actually listening you would have heard Roghair and Mollen for the APA say that as well as Akins.

It doesn't matter if you don't agree to it Bob. The Union leadership at all three already agreed to it in the US Air term sheets. You are a real piece of work.

 

[Frank Szabo]

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You are a real piece of work.

Bob may well have misunderstood what was said but at least he's not pushing the agenda of an out of touch union "president" who makes $270k per year plus bribes.

If you'll bother to remember and not skew facts as you and the rest of your kind are masters at, the NW/DL merger was a given BEFORE they both filed for Chapter 11 "protection" they both filed within days of each other to get in under the wire before 31 October 2005, so it, in effect, their merger WAS a product of their "co-bankruptcies".

Go away - little jimmy might want some "personal" attention today.

 

[Overspeed]

Overspeed claims there's plenty of MRO capacity to do our work. Someone is misinformed.

China isn't the only place. At the MRO Americas show Central and South America are being touted as the next airframe overhaul growth area. And check this out, as a testament to how bad the economy is, the "experts" at the show discussed that the rising labor costs in Asia have now made the US midwest and southern states competitive on labor costs.

AAR just leased the former NWA facility in MN, DL has invested more in Aeromexico (building more hangars), and Aeroman is building more hangars in El Salvador.

 

[TWU informer]

Sitting there and listening are two different things.

Akins did not say that. He said that the merger happened after and they both emerged from BK before they merged. Look it up Bob.

The point is that all the unions agreed to concessions with US Air that AA wanted in the past. Both the APA and APFA admitted that in court. If you were actually listening you would have heard Roghair and Mollen for the APA say that as well as Akins.

It doesn't matter if you don't agree to it Bob. The Union leadership at all three already agreed to it in the US Air term sheets. You are a real piece of work.

Why did the TWU use FEAR to attempt to save 900 jobs in Tulsa using massive concessions, but then signed a term sheet US Air that only protects 4500 AMT's in Tulsa for 24 months?

Why hasn't the powerful AFL-CIO using millions of dollars from our paychecks in the Politcal Arena, gotten the Bankruptcy Laws changed after you can demonstrate 33 cases of Unions taking it in the shorts when you are spreading fear?

Why are you appointed and not Elected by the Membership?

Why did the membership vote on something that is so divisive when the negotiators did not agree to it?

Why is that when other Unions lost pay, benefits, and work scope it was those Union's fault, but now that it happens to the TWU, there is no talk about how bad this Union sucks.....at least from the leaders and propaganda. Plenty of TWU members are talking now.

How does concessions for jobs still equate to great Union Leadership when it has been tried several times in the past and has done nothing to protect my future? All that is happening is the membership living standard is being decimated.

Why didn't the membership get to vote on the US Air term sheet agreement?

Why is everytime the Local 514 Membership fails to re-elect a representative to Local Union Office the TWU International Appoints them to a position, gives them a raise for life, while the same TWU is raping the employees pay and benefits?

 

[Overspeed]

Bob may well have misunderstood what was said but at least he's not pushing the agenda of an out of touch union "president" who makes $270k per year plus bribes.

Go away - little jimmy might want some personal attention today.

Jim is underpaid. According to the 2008 LM-2 that AMFA filed with the Department of Labor, AMFA paid Director O. V. Delle-Femine $560,394. Pretty good given that he successfully engineered an ill advised strike at NWA and didn't defend the UA outsourcing language and allowed thousands to be laid off as a result.

 

[Frank Szabo]

Jim is underpaid ...

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Yep - I'd be saying that too if I were in your position.

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[TWU informer]

China isn't the only place. At the MRO Americas show Central and South America are being touted as the next airframe overhaul growth area. And check this out, as a testament to how bad the economy is, the "experts" at the show discussed that the rising labor costs in Asia have now made the US midwest and southern states competitive on labor costs.

AAR just leased the former NWA facility in MN, DL has invested more in Aeromexico (building more hangars), and Aeroman is building more hangars in El Salvador.

And the powerful AFL-CIO with their $ millions from our paychecks and political arena might is doing what about this?