Midatlantic Of To A Rocky Start

[Hope777]

Robbed, They have been doing that for a while........
Maybe the Software Patch 4lowed talked about will fix a lot of these problems. I remember being trained to ride brakes on the 170, if you even touched the yoke, you would get a message that would ground the plane.

 

[wings396]

As usaul ITRADE is out of the box with his "Jackass" remarks. As for the rest of you that have been brainwashed with the MDA hoopla, time will tell about this supposed to be savior of the Airline. The cargo door is not like the 145 at all. And I don't need an electric one either, a simple design as the DH-8, CRJ or 737 would work fine. This A/C is the Fokker Jr. for certain. I was around when the DH-8 came online, and it was nothing like this 170 and its problems. I was just stating the FACTS about the MDA operation, and nothing more. Check the stats for yourselves.....

 

[Light Years]

As usaul ITRADE is out of the box with his "Jackass" remarks. As for the rest of you that have been brainwashed with the MDA hoopla, time will tell about this supposed to be savior of the Airline. The cargo door is not like the 145 at all. And I don't need an electric one either, a simple design as the DH-8, CRJ or 737 would work fine. This A/C is the Fokker Jr. for certain. I was around when the DH-8 came online, and it was nothing like this 170 and its problems. I was just stating the FACTS about the MDA operation, and nothing more. Check the stats for yourselves.....

I think everyone understands the frustrations of a new type. What your seeing here in responses is people who are looking at it from the perspective of, for starters, you still have the job to go to, funny cane opened door or not.

Secondly, whats differentiates this plane from a 145 or CRJ (aside from an obviously better product with growth responsibilities) is that is a work opportunity for US AIRWAYS EMPLOYEES for once. Your co-workers that have been on the street for a couple of years. Is it ideal? No. Is it the great contracts we all fought for, deserved, and enjoyed? No. But, used effectively, it can be a great positive for the airline. The savior? Maybe, maybe not. What are your suggestions? 737s to every small town in the East at high fares and full mainline contracts?

Unless of course you'd prefer they fly Mesa CRJ700s to your station because you like the cargo door better. I liked the fact that I could warm the galley floor of the A330 if I was cold and make myself an Expresso in the galley but that doesnt mean we should fly them to Allentown.

It just seems like there's an awful lot of complaining about MAA in general from the very people who signed the contracts on behalf of thier more junior counterparts. As for the plane, I think its a little early to decide its a disaster- if they are stil all broken in a year thats one thing, but two months into the launch, as the North American launch carrier is a little premature.

 

[wings396]

It makes no difference to me who flys what to where. I worked the W/O carriers A/C for many years and had no problem doing so. I am just trying to say that for a new state of the art A/C, the 170 is not what I expected. From a customer service perspective, it has been poor with mucho delays and cancellations. A lot of lost revenue so far to OA for backup flights.

 

[mweiss]

OK let's see if we can get to the heart of this one. Does anyone here know if the 170's been more difficult than other aircraft for launch customers? Has US ever, in fact, been a launch customer for any type before?

 

[Light Years]

I think Piedmont was the lauch customer, or at least North American launch customer for the 737-400, weren't they?

USAir was the third customer for the F100.

 

[autofixer]

Not a type, so to speak, but the A321 in North America.

 

[700UW]

US was the launch customer for the F100 in the US, also the 321, 330 and PI was the launch for the 737-400.

 

[xoxo]

All I have to say is..9 times out of 10 those passengers that are taken off the E-170
are NOT sent to other airlines for rerouting..they are put on another USAIRWAYS flight....just ask any agent. They are put on another flight on U that is later..or if it was the last flight..given a voucher, sent off to a hotel and put on another U flight in the morning. The E-170 has its glitches now because of the software..as sonn as the updated sofware is installed..watch out...because the problems will be few and far between.

 

[700UW]

It also had the some software glitches during certification and that is why the FAA would not certify it. It logged a total of 18 month delay.

 

[xoxo]

700UW,

yes I know..and the sad thing is that Honeywell did not want to release it either(so I have heard) but..it was released the way it is now..I guess they thought they would deal with it once it came online..but, I am just happy that it will be updated VERY soon and things will be better for MAA. Everyone loves this aircraft..the employees are happy with it...and so are the passengers...

 

[BIGDOG]

ROCKY START TO SAY THE LEAST.

This airplane should have stayed far away.

The passenger door is junk....

The computer system is so sensitive.

The cargo door design is terrible.

MDA wants to run flights four or five HOURS late
after they fix there maintance problems so they can get the compleation
factor looking good.

WHO CARES ABOUT THE PASSENGERS....

We WILL GIVE THEM AWAY TO OTHER AIRLINES.

Yes,the small market cities do need big airplanes BUT at the right time of day.

Then the smart thing to do is use the smaller WANNA BE jets on the off peak
times.

Looking at the mda flights to date running a 170 ABE-PHL
is not smart....

The 50 seat dash would be the best.

The 70 seat jet in this market doesn't make sense,but then again does anything this company has done make sense.

I do hope things get turned around with this COMPANY,but smarter moves have to be done at the top.

WORKING FOR PEANUTS STINKS.
ENDS AREN'T BEING MEET AT HOME AND SOON OTHERS WILL FIND OUT.
PICKING UP AND MOVING ISN'T THE ANSWER AS WELL.

THE ANSWER IS LET'S HOPE THE BOSSES IN CRYSTAL CITY GET SMARTER.

So, we can make a living doing what we like to do and get the PASSENGERS
WHO PAY THE PAYCHECK WHERE THEY WNAT TO GO ON USAIRWAYS.

AND NOT ON ANOTHER AIRLINES LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN.

 

[mweiss]

How old was the F100 when US started flying them? Ditto with the A330. I'm really trying to see if the bugs were worked out of the system before then.

The A321 may be, and the 737-400 was clearly, too similar to their predecessors to have that set of problems that come from an entirely new type.

 

[700UW]

The F100, had major problems with the landing gear, after every flight the mechanics had to inspect the cross-tie bolts and we had two incidents of the gear collapsing on landing and causing major damage to the planes. So the gear had to be modified also.

The packs would fail all the time as they were not large enough to cool the plane down and US had to spend millions on retrofitting all the F100s air conditioning system so ensure it would cool the plane down.

 

[Light Years]

The F100, had major problems with the landing gear, after every flight the mechanics had to inspect the cross-tie bolts and we had two incidents of the gear collapsing on landing and causing major damage to the planes. So the gear had to be modified also.

The packs would fail all the time as they were not large enough to cool the plane down and US had to spend millions on retrofitting all the F100s air conditioning system so ensure it would cool the plane down.

Hence the nickname "The Dutch Oven." Those things were pretty terrible.