What US Airways startions does MESA (not Air Midwest) operate? I've fly the CRJ in PHL and I have NEVER been to a Mesa run station. Ever. That said, Piney was in PIT and that is a PSA station not a Mesa station. Of course he knows this and is just looking to join the the Mesa bashing club. Make some friends. From now on I am going to start threads every time I have a unpleasent experience on U. It will be a weekly thing. -CapeTBONEJ4J said:Mesa does indeed operate some of the East Coast stations, perhaps Facts don't matter to you, Mr. Mesa Turtle.the turtle said:
Mesa is the pox of the Industry, Mr. Turtle, and you are part of that pox.
Unfortunately, ALPA is also the pox of the industry. Thereby, permitting you and your brethren to bottom feed your way to, well, the top of the bottom.
As JO makes this announcement, the AAA MEC is working on giving further Scope relief to allow the likes of MESA and Chautauqua to operate even more 70 Seaters. When will it occur that if they do not draw a line in the sand, the sand will suck them under. Davey Boy is not here to help US Airways survive, he's here to hook up his buddy Johnny. :down:
Mesa operating 737-300s on the East Coast. Bye, Bye US Airways!
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If Dave gets his way on the Airbus outsourcing you can bet that the 737 fleet will no longer be maintained or flown by "U" employees.
With the 737 fleet gone to one of Daves buddies," Mesa Air Group CEO Jonathan Ornstein ", Dave will still have the fleet at his disposal without the employee costs associated with running a company.
You can bet that this has been in the planning stages from just before the time Dave decided to ignore the IAM C.O.B. and try to outsource Airbus heavy checks.
With Airbus maintenance gone and the 737 fleet gone from this property, but still at his disposal, Dave will get what he has wanted all along.......... A Airline With No Employees!!
The only people to benefit if this happens will be Dave and his buddie Jonathan.
Linemech.
With the 737 fleet gone to one of Daves buddies," Mesa Air Group CEO Jonathan Ornstein ", Dave will still have the fleet at his disposal without the employee costs associated with running a company.
You can bet that this has been in the planning stages from just before the time Dave decided to ignore the IAM C.O.B. and try to outsource Airbus heavy checks.
With Airbus maintenance gone and the 737 fleet gone from this property, but still at his disposal, Dave will get what he has wanted all along.......... A Airline With No Employees!!
The only people to benefit if this happens will be Dave and his buddie Jonathan.
Linemech.
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Perhaps Mesa would take the lead of Ryan and remove all the amenities from the aircraft like window shades, seat back pockets, head rests, etc. and make the seats non reclinable as well..
Next thing you know he might try to retrofit the 737's with turboprop engines because they're cheaper.
Oh well.....at least you know where U's 737's might go.
This is distressing.
My best to you all....
Next thing you know he might try to retrofit the 737's with turboprop engines because they're cheaper.
Oh well.....at least you know where U's 737's might go.
This is distressing.
My best to you all....
Again...why is all of the chatter here making it sound like Mesa will provide U feeder service with the 73's. The article says nothing of the sort and would, in fact, be INDEPENDENT.linemech said:
IMHO, this whole thing came about with the failed ACA takeover. JO is now threatening ACA's proposed LCC with a competing LCC of their own in the east. That's all this is. Not farming out more U jobs as everyone seems to have jumped to on this board.
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I know of one Chairman's Preferred mileage member that quit flying U altogether because of the combination of Mesa's RJ's and PHL's performance. He walked intopassed_over said:
my Baggage Service Office one day and said" You guys always took good care of me
and that's why I stuck with you, but between Mesa and PHL, I've had it". And that's
just one gut I know of. Who knows how many other CHPR members we've lost?????
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For those of you who have said that Mesa does'nt operate any East Coast stations, don't they still operate BTV(Burlington)? I remember flying in there quite a bit during the transition phase when they were training all the new people they hired to run the ramp because too many of the Mainline people quit.
Anybody know for a fact if they're still there?
As for the bashing? No need to here it from me, as most of you already know what I think of contract carriers.
But I will say this, the employees of US Airways Group (meaning no contractors)had better learn to work together better than we have been. Negotiating together would have never allowed companies like mesa be able to fly aircraft such as the 73 and still be a contractor for the Group. Time is definitaley running out, if its not out already. WO's and Mainline need to be on the same page in order to get anywhere with dave.
The power is there to take back whats ours, when is someone gonna use it?
Anybody know for a fact if they're still there?
As for the bashing? No need to here it from me, as most of you already know what I think of contract carriers.
But I will say this, the employees of US Airways Group (meaning no contractors)had better learn to work together better than we have been. Negotiating together would have never allowed companies like mesa be able to fly aircraft such as the 73 and still be a contractor for the Group. Time is definitaley running out, if its not out already. WO's and Mainline need to be on the same page in order to get anywhere with dave.
The power is there to take back whats ours, when is someone gonna use it?
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Light Years,
I read your comment before it was CENSORED. I think it was a TOTALLY called for comment.
Down with censorship!!!
I read your comment before it was CENSORED. I think it was a TOTALLY called for comment.
Down with censorship!!!
I appologize to ms. light years, I was trying to be funny with a little Toy Story humor - ya know Woody calling Bud Light Year, "light beer", before punching his squeaky head.... sigh! oh well.
As for you TBone and others , Mesa employees are people just trying to survive also. We have families and are trying to pay our mortgage just like most of you. When we got into this game, we most of us expected to move on and since 911 it has become much more difficult to do so and now with JFJ some of your pilots are flowing down into our company. I feel it is imperative to work together since we are all laborers and not let ourselves be whipsawed. Next time you pass a Mesa pilot or FA, say Hi and and ask them how their day has been. They would appreciate it.
As for you TBone and others , Mesa employees are people just trying to survive also. We have families and are trying to pay our mortgage just like most of you. When we got into this game, we most of us expected to move on and since 911 it has become much more difficult to do so and now with JFJ some of your pilots are flowing down into our company. I feel it is imperative to work together since we are all laborers and not let ourselves be whipsawed. Next time you pass a Mesa pilot or FA, say Hi and and ask them how their day has been. They would appreciate it.
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typical WO response.BoredToDeath said:
stop blaming Mesa for U's woes. Whether you folks like it or not, Mesa is part of U's future. Get over it.
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Turtle,the turtle said:
I don't recall blaming mesa for anything. I am simply sick of you and yours alike using the US Airways Express name. As for being a part of "our" furture, I would venture to say that no one here can see the furture of this company. According to every "hot shot know it all", we should have been out of business a long time ago. So don't count on such a peachy keen future of stealing the US Airways Group flying forever junior.
By the way, how did you guys feel about "freedom air". That pretty much sums up our feelings about you. Can you really blame us? Really?
