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I orginally posted this on the IBT vs IAM thread, but it probably belongs here as well.

I am pro company...most of you already know this by now and you know the union is being forced upon many of us non-represented folk. Many of us were perfectly happy being non-union. But the time has come for us to pull our heads out of the sand and take some charge of our future. We didn't want this but as I've stated before change must be embraced and you make the best of the situation.

Went to my first union meeting yesterday with a few co-workers and my first impressions were good. Sure there was the expected union rhetoric, but I gained a better understanding of the situation that we will be confronted with soon. The feeling I got was the union folks (IBT) want to ensure the success of the company and get a fair contract at the same time.

I appreciate the extra time the members took to make us feel welcomed. Never been in a union before, but I intend to be the best member I can be, and contribute to not only the success of the company but to the membership as well.

The company undoubtedly wants the IAM to succeed. It will be much easier and cheaper than having to come to terms with the IBT, but I truly believe if the IBT does prevail a fair contract will be negotiated. Look only as far as the res agent agreement and you'll see a willingness by the company to move forward. The company can't afford a major hiccup in the merger and if there will be any leverage for a fair contract it is now not 2009 when the current IAM contract expires. Some say even if the IBT forces and wins a vote the IAM contract will be the surviving contract. Don't bet on it. It will be up to the NMB to make that determination and so far they haven't been to impressed with the IAM. The best chance for a new and fair contract is with the IBT.

If your currently not represented, non-management employee of US West you need to find out if your job description falls under the IAM contract. You can find the contract on the IBT website http://www.teamsterslocal104.org/

If you need help, use the website to contact someone at the IBT to ask questions. They are very willing to help and not overbearing (these boards can give a distorted picture). It won't hurt to sign a IBT card and turn it in. Cards will be held until the NMB asks for them to determine a need for an election. The IBT needs 35% of the membership of the crafts covered by the contract. If an election is called by the NMB both Unions will have the opportunity to campaign for your vote. IBT is working very hard for you to get all of it's members a better contract. They are not laying down.

If you've had your head in the sand, take it out and at least start getting information so you can make an informed decision. Good luck to us all and the company.



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I'd Rather Be Fishin'
 
DELL YOU AND MR700 Got to love this part..

(The new US Airways Group Inc., formed by Tempe-based America West Airlines' acquisition of the old US Airways last year.)

Do you think the NMB thinks that way too???(acquisition)
I SEE SMOKE IN THE EAST...
 
DELL YOU AND MR700 Got to love this part..

(The new US Airways Group Inc., formed by Tempe-based America West Airlines' acquisition of the old US Airways last year.)

Do you think the NMB thinks that way too???(acquisition)
I SEE SMOKE IN THE EAST...
NOPE,ASK DOUG AND HEMMENWAY AND GLASS :lol:
 
NOPE,ASK DOUG AND HEMMENWAY AND GLASS :lol:

Don't you think that's what they would like you believe. Smoother going for the company. It is a new company. You of all people should be wary of what corporate publicly says about this situation. Unlikely the NMB will see this as the company that went thru bankruptcy #2. Dell, I think you'll like the IBT.
 
In reading the IAM contract Article 17 pgh P

"This Agreement may not be amended or supplemented except by a written letter of agreement signed by both the Vice President of Labor Relation or his designee on behafe of the Company and a General chairman or his designee on behafe of the IAM"

My understanding of this is that changes to the IAM contract may be done with out a vote :mf_boff: just a handshake and a pen.

Just more backdoor deals :stupid:
 
DELL YOU AND MR700 Got to love this part..

(The new US Airways Group Inc., formed by Tempe-based America West Airlines' acquisition of the old US Airways last year.)

Do you think the NMB thinks that way too???(acquisition)
I SEE SMOKE IN THE EAST...
I think the NMB will think so too.........and it's the NMB's decision, no matter what Parker or Glass or anyone else says.........IMO.

And I was reading the IAM contract too........my stomach didn't feel very good either.........poor US East guys. No wonder the cards are coming in.
 
700 has not read the SEC filings or if he had he would understan this is a new company merged from both - the US Airways he knew and coaborated with is gone as is the America West that we worked to save in the past - thus the new name is new with minor changes and the stock designation - and the filing for a new operating certificate shortly. But hey that is just the facts. But as far as 7000 names on the list sounds like he is actually starting to believe his own BS. If a person holds seniority in several catagories they still only vote once - OPPS !! - guess that 7000 number is in the toilet - oh by the way Mr. 700 - DEAD ONES do not get to vote either.
 
700 has not read the SEC filings or if he had he would understan this is a new company merged from both - the US Airways he knew and coaborated with is gone as is the America West that we worked to save in the past - thus the new name is new with minor changes and the stock designation - and the filing for a new operating certificate shortly. But hey that is just the facts. But as far as 7000 names on the list sounds like he is actually starting to believe his own BS. If a person holds seniority in several catagories they still only vote once - OPPS !! - guess that 7000 number is in the toilet - oh by the way Mr. 700 - DEAD ONES do not get to vote either.
Kind of like the PHOENIX rising from the ashes!!

And what's up?? 700 gone stealth??? :huh:
 
There are over 6,000 US M&R including laid-off members, add the 850 HP M&R and you have almost 7,000.

And why hasn't the ibt filed for an election yet?

You all say you have enough cards and victory is in the bag, why not election?

Why do I get mail every week from the ibt begging me to sign a card?

Take off the rose colored glasses and welcome to the IAM when the NMB grants single carrier status.

Get ready to go back to work Randy and I Andy will have to go back to slinging boxes at UPS.
 
I think the NMB will think so too.........and it's the NMB's decision, no matter what Parker or Glass or anyone else says.........IMO.

No wonder the cards are coming in.
NMB precedent will bear us out.....
funny....i see doug and company has been stalling for quite some time in those little crucial areas of your agreement....you know,the ones that count....scope,overtime,vacation and wages....just insert those pages from IAM contract.like it or not soon yours to keep. :lol:
from this side IBT latest offensive ,last act of desperate men. :lol:
US AIRWAYS, INc.
.t
Category Active Leave Furlough Tota!
Mechanics &Related 2,661 48 2,803 5,482
Fleet Service 4,050 318 1,135 5,503
Maintenance Training Specialists 30 0 5 35
AMERICA WEST AIRLINES, INc.
Category Active Leave Furlough Total
Mechanics & Related 799 32 2 833
Stock Clerks"" 66 2 0 68
Fleet Service 2,371 97 30 2,498
Maintenance Instructors** 7 1 0 8
 
700 has not read the SEC filings or if he had he would understan this is a new company merged from both - the US Airways he knew and coaborated with is gone as is the America West that we worked to save in the past - thus the new name is new with minor changes and the stock designation - and the filing for a new operating certificate shortly. But hey that is just the facts. But as far as 7000 names on the list sounds like he is actually starting to believe his own BS? If a person holds seniority in several catagories they still only vote once - OPPS !! - guess that 7000 number is in the toilet - oh by the way Mr. 700 - DEAD ONES do not get to vote either.
here right from the fabled 104 teamsters website...the numbers you are reporting now,today:
US AIRWAYS, INc.
.t
Category Active Leave Furlough Tota!
Mechanics &Related 2,661 48 2,803 5,482
Fleet Service 4,050 318 1,135 5,503
Maintenance Training Specialists 30 0 5 35
AMERICA WEST AIRLINES, INc.
Category Active Leave Furlough Total
Mechanics & Related 799 32 2 833
Stock Clerks"" 66 2 0 68
Fleet Service 2,371 97 30 2,498
Maintenance Instructors** 7 1 0 8


so much for debunking your numbers eh?? :lol:
thanks to the teamsters for providing the numbers.
teamsters once again spreading misinformation?? :lol:
 
Randy,

Quick call Andy and see what he tells you to post now.

And I eagerly await your apology as I was right once again.

Don't let the facts get in your way!

teamsters announce new spokesman for the raid on US Airways' IAM Mechanic and Related:
 
the boys from the great western empire laying low today??
IAM countermeasures squad on duty......submerge...submerge... :lol:
 
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