Yes, the IBT filed the objection to the IAM's request for single carrier status. Single carrier status is a union deal.........you're probably thinking about the single operating certificate.
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So the NMB does not look at single operating certificate when looking to rule on a single operator?
awausairtech
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Looks like we all need to look that one up... sh## I work on aircraft not in a law office.LOLOLOLOL
OK THE FIRST ONE TO CUT AND PASTE WINS....
OK THE FIRST ONE TO CUT AND PASTE WINS....
Please correct me if I am wrong because I am not a lawyer either.
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grief until there are improvements ( YOU BET UNION BROTHER)
Good Golly Miss Molly ! I guess you're saying that you are willing to wait around until 2009, 2010 for these improvements ?
I "Trusted" one of these fine gentlemen you have listed here when I was FORCE MAJEURED out of one of the shops.
Only to find out later, That when I was furloughed [out of seniority], The mechanics at PIT were called back to work WEEKS before the mechanics in CLT were..[Seems it was too much of a burden for the union guys in PIT and CLT to work out a COMBINED plan for everyone].
The IAM is actually divided into 2 unions, [IAM North & IAM South].
You can believe what you want about that second vote, But one thing is for sure, If the union WANTED a NO vote, You can be VERY sure they would of NOT held that second vote !
Chapter 7 ?, Don't think so, If the union [and yes the membership] had any stones, I believe the company would've came back to the table. We will never know due to the CAPITULATION that took place.
The above quotes were from AIRCRAFTMECHANIC
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I dont know if you are right or wrong. Just wanted to know if the NMB does or does not look at single operating certificate when looking to rule on a single operator?Please correct me if I am wrong because I am not a lawyer either.
The IAM petitioned the NMB to declare single carrier status....for union purposes only. The IBT filed an objection because the IBT does not feel that the terms for single carrier status have been met by the company.
As far as I know, this single carrier status (union purposes only) has NOTHING to do with a single operating certificate.
Or maybe I just don't understand your question. :unsure:
AIRCRAFTMECHANIC,
Laid off in 95 ?..With 1984 seniority ?????
Let me take a guess, You worked ay Indy before they shut the hangar down, and decided not to move for 5 years..or you have utility time back to 84.[Just a guess.
Had to move? Huge paycuts? You ain't the lone ranger.
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it looks like you've been feed some mushrooms from your IAM none of your statments are correct. 1st of all we have we have 60 line techs on a night in Phx alone and more at the other stations that is all line maint. all our techs get 2.00 lic. pay werever they work. and shift diff. for graves and swings. lets talk about your great iam pension they take away your 401 and use that money to fund your pansion. and ours is matched 50% up to the first 6%. as for dues I pay $48 a month as a topped out mech, one of your guys claimed he was paying $50 and that was before they just raised your dues again I think for the 2nd time sence your pay cuts! our guys get 4 weeks vac after 12 years yours is after 17 yrs. should I keep going? let me know if you need the real facts like your buddy mr 7 says know your facts!
and by the way our shop stuwards and buisness rep are AWA techs Pat Porter is full time teamsters but is an awa tech. and our stuwards work right along with us not hanging out with mngt.
as the ibt has said and also Doug Parker has also stated no furlowed person will be able to bump out an active employee but there are opening throughout the systems that they can bid for, you yourself can bid for any open slots after the merge is done, and per the contract being worked on now and its been ta'd you can bump and roll to wereveryour sen can carry you "anyware"
from the ibt meeting yesterday the company isn't expecting any nmb rulling before feb or march and the ibt does have enough cards to force a vote and they keep comming in strong every day.
it looks like you've been feed some mushrooms from your IAM none of your statments are correct. 1st of all we have we have 60 line techs on a night in Phx alone and more at the other stations that is all line maint. all our techs get 2.00 lic. pay werever they work. and shift diff. for graves and swings. lets talk about your great iam pension they take away your 401 and use that money to fund your pansion. and ours is matched 50% up to the first 6%. as for dues I pay $48 a month as a topped out mech, one of your guys claimed he was paying $50 and that was before they just raised your dues again I think for the 2nd time sence your pay cuts! our guys get 4 weeks vac after 12 years yours is after 17 yrs. should I keep going? let me know if you need the real facts like your buddy mr 7 says know your facts!
and by the way our shop stuwards and buisness rep are AWA techs Pat Porter is full time teamsters but is an awa tech. and our stuwards work right along with us not hanging out with mngt.
as the ibt has said and also Doug Parker has also stated no furlowed person will be able to bump out an active employee but there are opening throughout the systems that they can bid for, you yourself can bid for any open slots after the merge is done, and per the contract being worked on now and its been ta'd you can bump and roll to wereveryour sen can carry you "anyware"
NMB ruling due out soon...then its all going to be moot...except for a lot of waa waa...
from the front lines of the western empire:
NMB Campaign in Full Court Press
from the ibt meeting yesterday the company isn't expecting any nmb rulling before feb or march and the ibt does have enough cards to force a vote and they keep comming in strong every day.
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And there are cards coming in from those current non union members that are going to be acreeded into a union also....more and more as the IBT passes information along.....unlike the IAM whose most vocal spokesman is Mr. 700UW. So that will increase the numbers even more.
And before I get slammed, yes, it is known that those cards are being put into the hold pile until the single carrier status is given. But what the heck, why wait until it's too late??
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insp89 GOOD POST.Good Golly Miss Molly ! LOLOLOL 320tech GOOD POST. AIRWOMAN GOOD POST. Snafu GOOD POST.I like to see all the good info. And it all can be backed up unlike the IAM with 1/2 truths and flat out lies.
Keep up all the good work guys.
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Some good reading from MSN.
US Airways Looks to Shed America West Name
PHOENIX (AP) - The new US Airways Group Inc., formed by Tempe-based America West Airlines' acquisition of the old US Airways last year, is beginning its biggest push yet to operate under a single name.
Former America West reservations agents are beginning to answer the phone "US Airways" and gate agents and flight crews will start referring to all flights as US Airways flights, mentioning that some are operated by America West.
Everything with a logo, including ticket jackets and in-flight napkins, was being changed to US Airways beginning Wednesday, although some airports will be using up their old America West items. Airport signs in America West's hubs in Phoenix and Las Vegas will soon change as well.
"We are trying to move as aggressively as we can to seamlessly convert to one name in ways that make sense to customers," said Travis Christ, the airline's vice president of sales and marketing.
Other big changes will take longer.
Christ said the entire America West fleet won't be repainted to the new US Airways scheme until the end of the year.
The airlines will also still have two Web sites for the next few months, though customers will be directed to USAirways.com.
Combining the airlines' reservation systems will take about a year. It will take up to two years before the airlines can fully integrate flight crews and operations under Federal Aviation Administration guidelines.
Randy Petersen, who follows the airline industry as publisher of InsideFlyer magazine and creator of FlyerTalk.com, said name changes can take a while to catch on.
That will be particularly true in Phoenix, which has long been dominated by homegrown America West and rival Southwest Airlines Co.
"There's only two things you know out there, and they both have West in them," Petersen said.
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On the Net:
US Airways: http://www.USAirways.com
America West: http://www.americawest.com
© 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
US Airways Looks to Shed America West Name
PHOENIX (AP) - The new US Airways Group Inc., formed by Tempe-based America West Airlines' acquisition of the old US Airways last year, is beginning its biggest push yet to operate under a single name.
Former America West reservations agents are beginning to answer the phone "US Airways" and gate agents and flight crews will start referring to all flights as US Airways flights, mentioning that some are operated by America West.
Everything with a logo, including ticket jackets and in-flight napkins, was being changed to US Airways beginning Wednesday, although some airports will be using up their old America West items. Airport signs in America West's hubs in Phoenix and Las Vegas will soon change as well.
"We are trying to move as aggressively as we can to seamlessly convert to one name in ways that make sense to customers," said Travis Christ, the airline's vice president of sales and marketing.
Other big changes will take longer.
Christ said the entire America West fleet won't be repainted to the new US Airways scheme until the end of the year.
The airlines will also still have two Web sites for the next few months, though customers will be directed to USAirways.com.
Combining the airlines' reservation systems will take about a year. It will take up to two years before the airlines can fully integrate flight crews and operations under Federal Aviation Administration guidelines.
Randy Petersen, who follows the airline industry as publisher of InsideFlyer magazine and creator of FlyerTalk.com, said name changes can take a while to catch on.
That will be particularly true in Phoenix, which has long been dominated by homegrown America West and rival Southwest Airlines Co.
"There's only two things you know out there, and they both have West in them," Petersen said.
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On the Net:
US Airways: http://www.USAirways.com
America West: http://www.americawest.com
© 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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