Mechanics vote

[calibrator]

Overtime is not offered to inviduals as they see fit.

There is an OT list with everyone's name on it and hours, the hours are equalized out and you get charged it if you accept, decline or get a no contact.

The copy provided to the members is a copy gone over by the IAM and the company sent to a professional printer, binded and bound and distributed to the membership, not a backroom copy like the ibt got from Labor Relations.

Keep trying!

Hey guys...lets not fight or argue. I have several like new Agreement Books I will send anyone who requests them as I don't need them anymore. And as 700 states they are nicely binded even has the IAM logo on the front cover. I was going to eBay them but figured, hey it's new years eve and I feel charitable.

Just provide you name and address in a PM and they are yours to have and keep in your secrete place for those special things in your life.

 

[700UW]

Cal,

The new CBA was just handed out last month.

 

[calibrator]

Cal,

These were just handed out last month.

I swear 700, I have a few here, give me your address or an PO box incognito and you can have them...they are as new too! I didn't say what year now did I?

 

[700UW]

Cal,

The copy I am referring too is the current CBA with the changes from the last bankruptcy.

 

[delldude]

you 2 guys keep saying the copy the ibt has that was provided by the company is not a good copy, I sure wish you guys would make up your mind!

guy my copy is in my desk drawer here in pittsburgh....

 

[AIRWOMAN]

The copy provided to the members is a copy gone over by the IAM and the company sent to a professional printer, binded and bound and distributed to the membership, not a backroom copy like the ibt got from Labor Relations.

And the Company does not give copies out to non-members,as everyone had to sign for their copy.

www.iamdl142.org

Keep trying!

Brought forward from a previous 700 post.

Go call US Airways Labor Relations they are the ones who handed out the copies to mtc management to be given to the employees, not the union.


Now 700, how about YOU keep trying. Keep trying to keep your stories straight. Keep trying to post the FACTS and not let them get in anyone's way.

You tell me and anyone else who reads this to call US Airways Labor Relations. Then you profess that the copy the IBT has posted is a backroom copy provided to them by US Airways Labor Relations. So are you saying that the copy of the IAM contract provided by US Airways Labor Relations is NOT the same as the professionally bound copy??? <_<

 

[calibrator]

Cal,

The copy I am referring too is the current CBA with the changes from the last bankruptcy.

Sorry, don't have that one although just today I received a letter from U saying I didn't make the annual Benefits Enrollment


They must really have it together, I have only been gone for 14 months....hope for everyone’s sake it's not the mobius operandi

 

[700UW]

Let me tell you this once again, and let it sink in.

The current IAM/US CBA was printed by the company after the union and the company approved all the language and proofed it.

The contracts were given to management by Labor Relations. The copies were handed out to the Mechanic and Related employees by the managers and foreman and everyone had to sign for a copy.

Is that so hard to understand?

The copy the ibt obtained and posted on the web has Ron Harbinson's name all over it, Ron is a manager of Labor Relations Ground. You do the math. There are differences on pages of where articles are located.

I find it very interesting that you a non-union employee at HP is so interested in the IAM/US CBA, it means nothing to you at the moment as you are not a union member and do not know if you are going to be one.

Something is rotten in Denmark if you ask me.

 

[AIRWOMAN]

Let me tell you this once again, and let it sink in.

The current IAM/US CBA was printed by the company after the union and the company approved all the language and proofed it.

The contracts were given to management by Labor Relations. The copies were handed out to the Mechanic and Related employees by the managers and foreman and everyone had to sign for a copy.

Is that so hard to understand?

The copy the ibt obtained and posted on the web has Ron Harbinson's name all over it, Ron is a manager of Labor Relations Ground. You do the math. There are differences on pages of where articles are located.

I find it very interesting that you a non-union employee at HP is so interested in the IAM/US CBA, it means nothing to you at the moment as you are not a union member and do not know if you are going to be one.

Something is rotten in Denmark if you ask me.

That isn't even what I brought up. Do the math?? What math is there to do? It has been posted many, many times, that the posted copy of the contract is not valid. Is it a valid copy or not? Are the page locations of the articles the only difference?

I'm glad that you find it interesting that I am interested. I am not the only one. And I do not think that you have the facts.....it is not for you to say whether or not this issue means something to me or not. Obviously it does because I ask questions. And I have never hidden the point that I am not currently a member of the union. And no, I have no notification at this point in time that on a specific date I, and my fellow non union employees, will become union. But that possibility exists and I find it in very poor judgement and taste that you assume things that you should not assume. I do not dismiss possibilities. I do not just take something as gospel because someone tells me it is. I will explore the possibilities and attempt to be prepared for the results and not be blind sided because of lack of information.

Please expand on your remark about something being rotten in Denmark?? There is NOTHING rotten coming from me. I am asking legitimate questions and would expect a legitimate answer and even better yet, the admission that there isn't an answer. And trust me, this is not the only place or avenue that I seek information from.

 

[calibrator]

Please expand on your remark about something being rotten in Denmark?? There is NOTHING rotten coming from me.
[/quote]


: : I've heard this expression all my life and never until recently wondered where it came from. What's the story behind this one?

: The story is "Hamlet." Act I, Scene 4: Marcellus (an officer) says "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark," having just seen the ghost of Hamlet's father, the late king of Denmark.

The phrase means "things are unsatisfactory; there is something wrong."
It is often (mis)quoted "There is something rotten in (the state of) Denmark."


"The good Dr. Gerard did not explain?" Sarah said, frowning:
"I don't understand Dr. Gerard. He seems to think --"
"That there is something rotten in the state of Denmark," quoted Poirot. (Agatha Christie, _Appointment with Death_, 1938)

"Even the Republicans are embarassed and feel endangered by this deal and they want to save themselves," she said. "There's something rotten in Denmark, and they want to make sure the smell doesn't attach to them." (_Newsday_, August 30, 1994)

 

[700UW]

Go back and reread it airwoman, then maybe you will understand.

For someone who is not a union member, does not know if they will be a union member you sure doth protest too much.

 

[PITbull]

Brought forward from Post #218:
don't hold yer breath, I offered to fly out and look at his copy, but alas no return. he will say that you will get your copy when the IAM takes over and we get put under that contract ( his opinion)
e-mails to the IAM and phone calls to the lodges and yet no copy we can see..... I bet that is how they represent their members
OK 700......then would you burn me a copy of the applicable section? I guess that's all I would need to start with. There has been attempted contact but no return contact so.........kind of at a loss here.

But if things pan out as you predict and the IAM contract is the surviving CBA, why wouldn't the union provide copies? And if there is no choice as you say, then I believe it should be viewed by the union, that each and every employee that is currently under the IBT and those employees that are not currently under a union contract but have will have no choice but to become union, are members by proxy. Wouldn't that give those employees the right to see what their future holds? Shouldn't that be the obligation of the union to ensure that there members are knowledgeable and informed?? With the FACTS that are contained within the contract, of course.

How many times does it have to be pointed out ad nauseum that YOU can get the contract either from Labor Relations or from your department. If you are not in the union, just make a request from your supervisor. The comany will provide the contract as it is their responsibility to provide it.

As far as 700, why would he personally provide anything at risk of "outing" himself?

Pretty dumb to keep insisting on this. Makes one suspecious on who you really are and what your intent really is here... :angry:

 

[700UW]

Makes one suspecious on who you really are and what your intent really is here... :angry:

Exactly!!!!!!

At least someone gets it.

 

[AIRWOMAN]

I hope that these are not wasted words but.....there is nothing suspicious going on. I have always been honest about my situation and my position. I have asked for information and there have been conflicting answers given from many sources. And it was just earlier today, that the information was given to contact US Airways Labor Relations. So that will be tried. As I'm sure everyone can understand, when an employee may be acreeded, the situation is distressed and people are unsure, at best. And under this merger and the differences in organization between the two sides, the situation is also distressed and unsure. Those of us that are not currently under a union contract are in a vacuum. We don't know what will happen. And we may not even have a choice. No one seems to have the answers. Information is the cornerstone of strength and that is what I seek. I can only imagine that this situation may have some similarites to the changes and upheaval employees on the east have faced and dealt with because of the previous status of the airline. We have all had uncertain times in this industry and I try to understand others and their concerns and I would hope that others would try to understand also. Questions asked of me are answered to the best of my ability and with all truth and honesty. So with all that said, I do not expect anyone to "out" themselves nor is that my intention.

Happy New Year to all.

 

[PITbull]

Well Airwoman,

I have to scratch my head for a second...if you are not in a union, do you have the ability of a vote for either union?

What is your capacity or can't you say? B)