Mechanics vote

[PhxRanchHand]

Would you make me a copy of your copy? Seriously.

don't hold yer breath, I offered to fly out and look at his copy, but alas no return. he will say that you will get your copy when the IAM takes over and we get put under that contract ( his opinion)
e-mails to the IAM and phone calls to the lodges and yet no copy we can see..... I bet that is how they represent their members

 

[AIRWOMAN]

don't hold yer breath, I offered to fly out and look at his copy, but alas no return. he will say that you will get your copy when the IAM takes over and we get put under that contract ( his opinion)
e-mails to the IAM and phone calls to the lodges and yet no copy we can see..... I bet that is how they represent their members

LOL. No, I'm not holding my breath. Just making a request of the person that wigs out on everyone about not letting the facts get in your way. IMO, you gotta have 'em (the FACTS) before you can not let them get in your way. And you are most likely correct......700 posted earlier that a copy of the contract would be provided when I was acreeded into the union. That's absolute garbage! :angry: :down: We'll just have to keep on trying!

 

[PhxRanchHand]

LOL. No, I'm not holding my breath. Just making a request of the person that wigs out on everyone about not letting the facts get in your way. IMO, you gotta have 'em (the FACTS) before you can not let them get in your way. And you are most likely correct......700 posted earlier that a copy of the contract would be provided when I was acreeded into the union. That's absolute garbage! :angry: :down: We'll just have to keep on trying!

I didn't think of the having the facts for them not to get in the way!!!!!!!!
we are in similar positions, however I am in a Union position, just not an AMT, on the east side AMT's do my job, so I need to know what there plan is for us to keep our jobs!!!

 

[AIRWOMAN]

I didn't think of the having the facts for them not to get in the way!!!!!!!!
we are in similar positions, however I am in a Union position, just not an AMT, on the east side AMT's do my job, so I need to know what there plan is for us to keep our jobs!!!

We all need to know the "plan"......the union's plan, the company's plan..........someone must have a plan.

Pretty tough to try and figure it out with the differences in organization, structure, unionization, etc., between the east and west. Guess that's why we need the facts.

 

[700UW]

The union does not tell the company how to operate, they ensure the company adheres to the CBA and does not deviate from it.

The contract is couple of hundred pages, don't have the time to burn you a copy.

If you want a copy contact District 142.

Why would a they send you a copy if you are not in a group that is unionized?

If you are accreded you don't have a choice in the matter and you will receive a copy then, the NMB makes the decision on the accretion, not the IAM.

 

[PhxRanchHand]

The union does not tell the company how to operate, they ensure the company adheres to the CBA and does not deviate from it.

The contract is couple of hundred pages, don't have the time to burn you a copy.

If you want a copy contact District 142.

Why would a they send you a copy if you are not in a group that is unionized?

If you are accreded you don't have a choice in the matter and you will receive a copy then, the NMB makes the decision on the accretion, not the IAM.

Beuler....... Beuler.........

 

[AIRWOMAN]

The union does not tell the company how to operate, they ensure the company adheres to the CBA and does not deviate from it.

The contract is couple of hundred pages, don't have the time to burn you a copy.

If you want a copy contact District 142.

Why would a they send you a copy if you are not in a group that is unionized?

If you are accreded you don't have a choice in the matter and you will receive a copy then, the NMB makes the decision on the accretion, not the IAM.

Brought forward from Post #218:
don't hold yer breath, I offered to fly out and look at his copy, but alas no return. he will say that you will get your copy when the IAM takes over and we get put under that contract ( his opinion)
e-mails to the IAM and phone calls to the lodges and yet no copy we can see..... I bet that is how they represent their members


OK 700......then would you burn me a copy of the applicable section? I guess that's all I would need to start with. There has been attempted contact but no return contact so.........kind of at a loss here.

But if things pan out as you predict and the IAM contract is the surviving CBA, why wouldn't the union provide copies? And if there is no choice as you say, then I believe it should be viewed by the union, that each and every employee that is currently under the IBT and those employees that are not currently under a union contract but have will have no choice but to become union, are members by proxy. Wouldn't that give those employees the right to see what their future holds? Shouldn't that be the obligation of the union to ensure that there members are knowledgeable and informed?? With the FACTS that are contained within the contract, of course.

 

[700UW]

Let me say this one more time, the contracts were printed by US Airways and handed out to the employees by managers and foreman, not the union.

And if and when everyone falls under the IAM/US CBA a copy will be provided.

Go call US Airways Labor Relations they are the ones who handed out the copies to mtc management to be given to the employees, not the union.

 

[AIRWOMAN]

Let me say this one more time, the contracts were printed by US Airways and handed out to the employees by managers and foreman, not the union.

And if and when everyone falls under the IAM/US CBA a copy will be provided.

Go call US Airways Labor Relations they are the ones who handed out the copies to mtc management to be given to the employees, not the union.

Well......then why would you tell me to contact District 142 in your previous post???? :unsure:

 

[delldude]

good point 700...thats who agreed contractually to provide copies so let them answer all those who want them.

 

[PhxRanchHand]

Let me say this one more time, the contracts were printed by US Airways and handed out to the employees by managers and foreman, not the union.

And if and when everyone falls under the IAM/US CBA a copy will be provided.

Go call US Airways Labor Relations they are the ones who handed out the copies to mtc management to be given to the employees, not the union.

I got my IBT copy from my IBT steward. 700, do you depend on the company to stand by it's word, or the Union for which you belong to provide for it's members???

 

[delldude]

I got my IBT copy from my IBT steward. 700, do you depend on the company to stand by it's word, or the Union for which you belong to provide for it's members???

its an issue of the company agreeing to print and distribute them.


ARTCLE 17
GENERAL AND MISCELLANEOUS
(F)
The company shall provide each employee covered by this Agreement with a copy of the Agreement printed in an adequately bound booklet.
THIS WAS AGREED TO BY THE COMPANY
THIS IS THE WAY IT IS HERE

 

[PhxRanchHand]

its an issue of the company agreeing to print and distribute them.
ARTCLE 17
GENERAL AND MISCELLANEOUS
(F)
The company shall provide each employee covered by this Agreement with a copy of the Agreement printed in an adequately bound booklet.
THIS WAS AGREED TO BY THE COMPANY
THIS IS THE WAY IT IS HERE

I am not doubting the word of the contract, but this is a question( just not on the contract copy issue) of If the company is not holding up to the contract, will the IAM do what is needed to keep members informed, or not rely on the company to keep it's word.

 

[320tech]

The union does not tell the company how to operate, they ensure the company adheres to the CBA and does not deviate from it.

The contract is couple of hundred pages, don't have the time to burn you a copy.

If you want a copy contact District 142.

Why would a they send you a copy if you are not in a group that is unionized?

If you are accreded you don't have a choice in the matter and you will receive a copy then, the NMB makes the decision on the accretion, not the IAM.

what about your IAM guys telling mng not to offer overtime to the guys that are known to have signed teamster cards. we have heard the complaints from them. you can lie about it all you want.but I'm sure your black listing these guys!!!

Let me say this one more time, the contracts were printed by US Airways and handed out to the employees by managers and foreman, not the union.

And if and when everyone falls under the IAM/US CBA a copy will be provided.

Go call US Airways Labor Relations they are the ones who handed out the copies to mtc management to be given to the employees, not the union.

in other words he says no to letting you see his copy or making copies of his! maybe you need secret IAM sucurity clearence to see thier copy?

its an issue of the company agreeing to print and distribute them.
ARTCLE 17
GENERAL AND MISCELLANEOUS
(F)
The company shall provide each employee covered by this Agreement with a copy of the Agreement printed in an adequately bound booklet.
THIS WAS AGREED TO BY THE COMPANY
THIS IS THE WAY IT IS HERE

you 2 guys keep saying the copy the ibt has that was provided by the company is not a good copy, I sure wish you guys would make up your mind!

 

[700UW]

Overtime is not offered to individuals as they see fit.

There is an OT list with everyone's name on it and hours, the hours are equalized out and you get charged it if you accept, decline or get a no contact. They steward calling the ot will be held accountable if people are intentionally bypassed. I have not heard of anyone being skipped.

The copy provided to the members is a copy gone over by the IAM and the company sent to a professional printer, binded and bound and distributed to the membership, not a backroom copy like the ibt got from Labor Relations.

And the Company does not give copies out to non-members,as everyone had to sign for their copy.

www.iamdl142.org

Keep trying!