LCC Proposes $8B merger with Delta

[N965VJ]

Now we can recycle all those old PI epithets.

 

[Weight&Balance]

This reminds me of a famous voyage. OH yeah I remember RMS Titanic! :down: Maybe we should have the deal on April 15,1912.


Why would we use Delta's name. It's still
U.nfortunately A. llegheny I. n R. eality :down:

 

[PHX-F/A]

PDF document for the investor slide show is on the company website. Much clearer than the link up stream.

http://usairways.com/awa/content/aboutus/i...ns/webcast.aspx

 

[crj58]

Judging from the fleet list the triple-7 and the
MD-80 are the only types US/DL don't operated.
The various series 767s would not be incompatible.
737NGs and narrow-bodied airbuses on order would
eventually replace the MD-80 fleet.

 

[Non Rev]

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[Charlie_Tuna]

Is there a precedent for a merger of a smaller union group and larger nonunion group. Would there be a union.nonunion vote for the combined group?

Your answer 19.601 , 602 , 603

 

[PHX-F/A]

The NMB would not get involved except post-merger. Being non-union now, the DL f/as have no standing with the NMB. Post-merger, there might not be enough DL f/as left to be a "majority." I'm not saying either way is right or wrong. I'm just saying that the Duty of Fair Representation is owed to current, not potential, members.

The kool-aide drinkers at DL that voted no will be really sorry! How many times did they vote?

 

[N965VJ]

To be honest, my first reaction was “What about NW?â€￾

Something else is going on here.

Conspiracy theories anyone?

 

[SKY HIGH]

http://news.delta.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=10454


DELTA adds their response this morning.


and US adds their response on website:

http://usairways.com/awa/content/operation...er/default.aspx



only stating opinions.

 

[700AW]

http://news.delta.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=10454
DELTA adds their response this morning.
only stating opinions.

as grinstein has said all along " they want to exit bk as a stand alone airline" they would be stand alone, just as #2 and with backing

 

[jimntx]

The kool-aide drinkers at DL that voted no will be really sorry! How many times did they vote?

I don't know for sure, but I know that there have been several attempts to organize DL f/as over the years. All were voted down.

 

[jetstewus]

Now we can recycle all those old PI epithets.

"The peanuts tasted better when we were Piedmont."

Love the vistajets!

I know this is very small potatoes in the scheme of things but for f/as on furlough at both airlines...US recall rights are pretty much indefinite until everyone junior to you has returned or quit. However, I fly with furloughed Delta stews who, like AA, are automatically seperated once they have been on furlough for five years. (watch and see if AA waits for the TWA stews to drop off the list and then starts hiring off the street again...impolite and evil!) I reckon this will be the last thing hashed out if this US/DL thing becomes reality but it may influence some people's decision to pass or accept future recalls...in the unlikely event there will be any now. I've passed on recall once, hoping to wait for the dust to settle from the first merger...but now I wonder if it isn't smarter to be back on the property, caught up in the madness so as not to get left by the wayside. Then again, getting left behind might be less painful in the long run. Hmmmm?...

"She works here but she's not an "R.D." She's Western."

 

[N903AW]

QUOTE(etops1 @ Nov 15 2006, 09:27 AM)

"i am floored. i just hope that we intergrate the f/a date of hire .it's the only fair way. even if they are not unionized. stapleing people to the bottom is just not right ."

I'm guessing that this would not be possible. Considering the seniority of DL's f/a corps (I have a friend there who has almost 40 years on the line), how could AFA allow DOH for a non-union workforce and avoid a DFR suit from the junior US/AWA flight attendants who would be furloughed to make room for the DL f/as? (And, you know that would have to happen.)

The AFA's first responsibility legally is to protect the jobs of its current members.

If I were an East US FA, I would reconsider giving DL FAs DOH. If, and that is a very big IF, this buyout happens I can assure you that East FAs are going to be most affected in their respective bases.

I see two things happening at Delta if, and that is a very big IF, this buyout happens. One, they will be falling over themselves to send in their cards for AFA representation; Two, the most senior Delta FAs, who are eligible, will be retiring in droves.

 

[Workingman]

Is there a precedent for a merger of a smaller union group and larger nonunion group. Would there be a union.nonunion vote for the combined group?

Yes Flying Tigers Airlines the mechanics were IAM and Fed Ex mechanics were non union and far out numbered FTL but were also a much younger company.

 

[Bear96]

That will be intresting , CLT and ATL come to mind as being way too close, . . .

Not to mention JFK and PHL for transatlantic operations.