LAS flights

[VegasVic]

I want to thank US management for actually ADDING flights to Las Vegas. Sept 14 starts a LAS-YEG flight and Oct 2 there will be an additional LAS-FAT flight. Hopefully US management will add more LAS flights and more nightflights which were full and profitable before the runup in fuel prices. LAS-ANC was always full as were JFK, Florida flights and ONT.
There's a lot of people in Las Vegas hoping for more LAS flights.

 

[US1YFARE]

How do you know they were profitable?

 

[LGA / 037]

How do you know they were profitable?

I'll say the same. How do you know they were profitable?

 

[HP2USFA]

FAT couldn't say... but YEG/ANC were always full and profitable. Again, as mentioned, this was PRE fuel price rise.

 

[az_wild727]

At the same time, certain flights and/or routes are going to Mesa. SNA-LAS is now all Mesa except one flight. Certain LAX-LAS flights are going Mesa in September. Certain LAS-PHX flights are going Mesa. So I guess it is further downsizing, unfortunately. :angry:

-Kinglobjaw

 

[WCT]

No idea why US got rid of LAS-ANC???? No competition. I believe Alaska has started service? Maybe. LAS-JFK?? IS a big wonder. We had up to 4 flights a day in that market, completely packed year round. I guess Jet Blue and Virgin America took advantage, and we retreated once again..
YYC and YEG are always upgraded from both LAS/PHX to mainline in the Fall and Winter months, so no real additions. The SNA market is tricky, and the flights are NEVER full, expect on FRI and SUN. Slots are rare, and US doesn't want to lose them to WN.

Who knows what the future holds for LAS???? Seems PHL and CLT are making the buck, and mostly 321's and 757's....hmmm? PIT is still on the agenda. Don't forget ORD, FLL, MCO are making money, hopefully!

 

[az_wild727]

Also, DCA. I'm sure they would like to keep transfer that slot to another PHX flight or LAX, but since it's an exemption, they have to keep LAS. Still, in any way they have to keep it, I'm glad US has a DCA-LAS flight. It seems to go red-eye again from LAS, so it's a reminder of the the good times of the night hub.

Bring back US228! LAS-ORD red-eye. I miss you so much!

-Kinglobjaw

 

[curious1]

Allegiant is quitting LAS-SBA so maybe US can restart that route.
LAS-OGG could be restarted. That flight was full but had lots of free ticket holders on it. There's no more Aloha or ATA so this flight might work out now that there's no more LCCs to Hawaii.

US can also start interlining with AC. That could add more business to LAS. I wonder why they don't interline with AC.

 

[az_wild727]

US can also start interlining with AC. That could add more business to LAS. I wonder why they don't interline with AC.

I know they interline, but they don't code-share. I think that's what you had in mind. And yes, I find it interesting that they code-share with airlines on different continents, but not neighbor AC. I mean, it's good that they are able to get agreements with NH, SQ and LX, but they should come to an agreement to AC. And, just to make me feel good, LO, too please.

-Kinglobjaw

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

And yes, I find it interesting that they code-share with airlines on different continents, but not neighbor AC. I mean, it's good that they are able to get agreements with NH, SQ and LX, but they should come to an agreement to AC.

Could it be that UA does not want AC to codeshare on trans-border flights with US?

 

[curious1]

I know they interline, but they don't code-share. I think that's what you had in mind. And yes, I find it interesting that they code-share with airlines on different continents, but not neighbor AC. I mean, it's good that they are able to get agreements with NH, SQ and LX, but they should come to an agreement to AC. And, just to make me feel good, LO, too please.

-Kinglobjaw

US could codeshare with LO, but I think a PHL-WAW flight would be a huge money maker. LOT is the only airline that flies anywhere in the USA to Poland.

I wonder if US refuses to talk to AC or AC refuses to talk to US.
AC was eager to get in bed with CO though so it makes you wonder.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

US could codeshare with LO, but I think a PHL-WAW flight would be a huge money maker. LOT is the only airline that flies anywhere in the USA to Poland.

Why would PHL-WAW be a huge money maker? ORD-WAW naturally makes sense, and flights to WAW from DTW, CLE , JFK/EWR due to population demographics make more sense and could probably make more $$$ than PHL-WAW. Unfortunately DTW & CLE are not US hubs and the Polish community in NE PA might prefer JFK/EWR vs. PHL. Moreover, WAW geographical location is not as ideal for EU codeshare/connecting flights on * alliance compared to FRA (or even VIE if you want to focus on central/eastern EU).

 

[necigrad]

I would really like to know what all these statements about flights being profitable are based on. You can fill every seat on a plane and lose money. In fact, that's why Parker and Kirby claim they needed to reduce LAS flying. LAS-ANc was profitable? Fine, cite costs and revenues of runnign the flight. I agree that by and large a full flight can GENERALLY be expected to be profitable. These are not normal times, however, and common sense can't apply.

 

[UPNAWAY]

Necigrad, I agree I am shocked at how little airline employees seem to know about the airline business. My favorite thought is "Cargo pays the freight on that route" when discusing poor load factors. Even on big load yields cargo is almost never the deciding factor if to fly a route or not.

 

[hp_fa]

I seem to recall that cargo was the deciding factor in all year service on the PHX-ANC route and it probably helps the Hawaii routes.