JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[WeAAsles]

If it was devastating, I'm sure you'd oblige everyone and devastate me again. Go ahead.

I'm trying to make this as simple as possible for you to understand. I don't want to go down this road again with you for the umpteenth time.

You simply have no relevancy at all in the future as far as this issue is concerned.

You are not part of any ongoing official talks between the TWU and the Company and will not be a part of any possible future continued arbitration either.

I'd get more out of jerking off into my pillow than continuing this conversation with you.

 

[NYer]

NYer APFA Arbitration.

http://local501.twuatd.org/wp-content/uploads/file/VEBA-Prefunding-Decision (2).pdf

(Supplied courtesy of behind the scenes friend)

Oh, Good Grief.

You want to use the APFA arbitration to make a point concerning the TWU arbitration. Really??!?!??!

 

[NYer]

I'm trying to make this as simple as possible for you to understand. I don't want to go down this road again with you for the umpteenth time.

You simply have no relevancy at all in the future as far as this issue is concerned.

You are not part of any ongoing official talks between the TWU and the Company and will not be a part of any possible future continued arbitration either.

I'd get more out of jerking off into my pillow than continuing this conversation with you.

Classy.

You started the conversation, but I guess I can understand why you'd rather not follow through.

 

[WeAAsles]

Why do they have a chance?

I can tell you why they don't. Enlighten us.

Have a nice day Agent Smith.

 

[NYer]

 

[Koolcat]

Why do they have a chance?

I can tell you why they don't. Enlighten us.

Parker has said that they don't see the court giving them relief on this matter, when they are making billions in profit

 

[NYer]

Parker has said that they don't see the court giving them relief on this matter, when they are making billions in profit

Correct. That being the case, the Trust won't be broken and the Match money won't be available for distribution.

When they lost the Summary Judgment in BK, rather than filing the 1114, it pretty much cemented the fate of being able to break the Trust.

 

[Koolcat]

Correct. That being the case, the Trust won't be broken and the Match money won't be available for distribution.

When they lost the Summary Judgment in BK, rather than filing the 1114, it pretty much cemented the fate of being able to break the Trust.

True , it's done

 

[Koolcat]

Now the question??? Did we lose value in our contract because we didn't get the company's share of the pre-funding???

 

[WeAAsles]

True , it's done

Thankfully no one "Official" is listening to either of you including the Arbitrator himself in the last page.

http://local501.twuatd.org/wp-content/uploads/file/AA_TWU Final.pdf

 

[NYer]

Now the question??? Did we lose value in our contract because we didn't get the company's share of the pre-funding???

No. The money in the pre-funding Trust was separate from the BK and any values tied to that process.

That's the reason why the Match language was written the way it was and there wasn't language which would give us a payout in the event the Trust wasn't broken, as suggested by others. Creating language in that way would have created value outside of the Trust and would have been subject to the total value of the CBA which means we would have to offset the Match value with something else in order to reach out 17% cut.

 

[NYer]

Thankfully no one "Official" is listening to either of you including the Arbitrator himself in the last page.

http://local501.twuatd.org/wp-content/uploads/file/AA_TWU Final.pdf

I don't want to go down this road again with you for the umpteenth time.

But here you are.

 

[WeAAsles]

Now the question??? Did we lose value in our contract because we didn't get the company's share of the pre-funding???

When have "I" ever said that we could draw out ANY distribution (MONEY) from the Trust?

Holy Jesus Mahoney.

I want my $6500.00 of Medical "value" still owed to me and under "my" name (as a letter sent to me clearly shows) when I retire from this Company.

 

[Albert]

When have "I" ever said that we could draw out ANY distribution (MONEY) from the Trust?

Holy Jesus Mahoney.

I want my $6500.00 of Medical "value" still owed to me and under "my" name (as a letter sent to me clearly shows) when I retire from this Company.

Weez I think we would all chip in and give $6,500 if you'll just drop it. Tell me what the big surprise in ORD is

 

[NYer]

When have "I" ever said that we could draw out ANY distribution (MONEY) from the Trust?

Holy Jesus Mahoney.

I want my $6500.00 of Medical "value" still owed to me and under "my" name (as a letter sent to me clearly shows) when I retire from this Company.

As that arbitrator said, you're not due that unless the Trust is broken because the money in the Trust is for the use of the "aggregate," not the individual.

You really should read the decision.