JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[Tim Nelson]

Tim although the Prefunding Match issue is not your concern I'll give you an answer.

NYer here is partially responsible for accepting language in BK that cost TWU Members around 120 Million Dollars that didn't need to be accepted (My take in that was $6500.00) and NOW that individual comes on here and in other places urging the new leaders trying to correct the issue to give up and that there is no chance of winning.

Simple question Tim. How would you feel if some idiot cost you $6500.00? Would you want to be friends with that guy?

And when my Union TWU Lawyers say it's over then I'll back off. Not because some castaway says so.

lol, Well I don't feel too good about people that cost me money and that's why I do what I can to get them out of office. But it appears you have been unfair to NYer so it appears that you just have a personal grudge. Fine, but just call it that. NYer has been pretty honest about that situation and has offered his unchanging opinion on it. Now, maybe the TWU does win that case, in which case I would hope NYer would say he was wrong. But thus far he has been 'spot on'.

 

[WeAAsles]

Can't have a contingency that dealt with the money in the Trust (Match money) if they were unsuccessful in discontinuing the Plan because that money is protected and unavailable unless the Trust is discontinued. So no, that wasn't a viable alternative.

As far as your "frustration," you engaged me in this conversation. As you can see, I can hold a conversation as long as it remains on topic, you, however, when losing the argument will inevitably turn to ridiculing whomever you're engaged with.

The fact that someone is a "just" a high school graduate doesn't mean they are not intelligent. That's a pretty disrespectful thing to say when more of the Members in Fleet fall into that category. It's a shame you seem to always have to lower yourself to insults and juvenile ridicule.

Anyway, any other ideas how the Match could have been saved since the LAWYERS that crafted the language seemed to have failed in your opinion.

Yes on that one Mark Richards failed. Otherwise I've been told by many that he's an excellent Lawyer.

Not crafting the language I came up with again for you. Search for it on these boards but all the readers here know you won't. It was devestating to your arguments.

 

[Tim Nelson]

BTW, while I understand that Murphy decided to do it his own way and leaflet at Wrigley Field, it doesn't follow that we couldn't have had a rally at Ohare. Granted, like any airport, if you want to leaflet, only a few can do so. But rallying, etc., provided the participants aren't all handing out things is pretty wide open.

I've rallied with United workers in front of Ohare, and I remember dozens of rallies in front of Ohare. 2 last year. The latest rally was 8 months ago, thanks to TWU Local 571. Here take a look. Anyone who says you can't rally at Ohare is fake news.

 

[WeAAsles]

NYer APFA Arbitration.

http://local501.twuatd.org/wp-content/uploads/file/VEBA-Prefunding-Decision (2).pdf

(Supplied courtesy of behind the scenes friend)

 

[WeAAsles]

lol, Well I don't feel too good about people that cost me money and that's why I do what I can to get them out of office. But it appears you have been unfair to NYer so it appears that you just have a personal grudge. Fine, but just call it that. NYer has been pretty honest about that situation and has offered his unchanging opinion on it. Now, maybe the TWU does win that case, in which case I would hope NYer would say he was wrong. But thus far he has been 'spot on'.

NYer has NOT said "In his opinion" and has NEVER admitted he was wrong about anything.

Through all your faults Tim at least you can/have admitted when you're wrong and you get my thumbs up each time you do. You're not a complete psychotic egomaniac.

And BTW I also never said if I thought TWU would win their argument ultimately or not. I "think" they have a chance though.

 

[Albert]

NYer has NOT said "In his opinion" and has NEVER admitted he was wrong about anything.

Through all your faults Tim at least you can/have admitted when you're wrong and you get my thumbs up each time you do. You're not a complete psychotic egomaniac.

And BTW I also never said if I thought TWU would win their argument ultimately or not. I "think" they have a chance though.

Yes he is

 

[Koolcat]

Why would he put this info out so late in the game.

 

[Koolcat]

And why would they need limited number of members for this historic event???

 

[Koolcat]

Our Rallies have been working, why disrupt the great flow???

 

[Tim Nelson]

Why would he put this info out so late in the game.

Rumor on the ramp is that the Cubs player rep is going to join us. I doubt it but something is planned for sure, not sure what.

 

[swamt]

Why would he put this info out so late in the game.

I tend to agree. Less than one week till the holiday. Why make major changes at this point? Hope it turns out as great or greater than the picketing. With this type of announcement it better be huge...

 

[NYer]

Holy crap bro. Post the decision of the Arbitrator please while I head to work and we'll pick this up again later if we must.

What was the word the Arbitrator used? "Premature" or something along those lines?

The word "premature" is nowhere in the decision. Try again.

 

[NYer]

Yes on that one Mark Richards failed. Otherwise I've been told by many that he's an excellent Lawyer.

Not crafting the language I came up with again for you. Search for it on these boards but all the readers here know you won't. It was devestating to your arguments.

If it was devastating, I'm sure you'd oblige everyone and devastate me again. Go ahead.

 

[NYer]

Yes on that one Mark Richards failed. Otherwise I've been told by many that he's an excellent Lawyer.

Not crafting the language I came up with again for you. Search for it on these boards but all the readers here know you won't. It was devestating to your arguments.

So we're dumb because we're just HS graduates and you keep reminding me I'm not a lawyer.

Then the fact that a lawyer wrote the Match language but other than that language he is brilliant. If we're HS grads and not lawyers then how can you make the determination that "an excellent lawyer" failed?

This is why your credibility is in question. Your arguments make no sense and you just seem to take a stance for the sake of taking it, no rhyme or reason to it.

 

[NYer]

NYer has NOT said "In his opinion" and has NEVER admitted he was wrong about anything.

Through all your faults Tim at least you can/have admitted when you're wrong and you get my thumbs up each time you do. You're not a complete psychotic egomaniac.

And BTW I also never said if I thought TWU would win their argument ultimately or not. I "think" they have a chance though.

Why do they have a chance?

I can tell you why they don't. Enlighten us.