JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[Albert]

Leave me out of it. They wont do anything without Sito. They will respond and id be shocked if they dont authorize picketing...eventually.

Come on Tim opportunity knocks,you can do it, this won't be your Waterloo. The masses are looking for a savior

 

[Deleted member 14439]

I`m guessing the IAM is fat,dumb and happy. Why rock the boat? They have better holidays,overtime, holiday pay,shift differential and cheaper medical. The TWU membership has had it. We are pushing back and want to, at a minimum, enjoy parity with our IAM counterparts. It`s up to the IAM if they want in this fight. They are certainly welcome to join us at DFW on July 26th. AMTs, FSC, Facilities maintenance,Pilots and Flight attendants are all coming together that day. I`d hope the IAM shows up as well. Will this protest push the company to the table? No, but it is a push in the right direction. It is a building block to help get this thing done. Hopefully it will push the momentum and keep rolling thru other stations. IMHO, ORD got the ball rolling with their heated town hall meeting. I`m looking forward to the 26th. I hope to see our IAM brothers and sisters standing with us. -HOG

 

[Tim Nelson]

Come on Tim opportunity knocks,you can do it, this won't be your Waterloo. The masses are looking for a savior

Im a big Association supporter, at this time. Im just hopeful that the iam will support all of us and the talks by joining the picket. If there isnt anything for the iam to picket for then what have they been negotiating?

 

[Deleted member 14439]

Personally, I`d hope LAA move towards the better LUS medical. LUS should not have to lose that and LAA could certainly use the improvement to our plan.

 

[WeAAsles]

I would think working in Mia and since solidarity is so strong with you twu guys, you would know exactly what's going on?? You mean to tell me you don't? Wow that's surprising.

The picketing letter was completely out of left field to me. I will say here that DFW has always thought very highly of themselves though.

If no one told you (from that Local) that they wanted to picket, that sounds kind of Chicken Chit to me man.

William Fa does have a slight communication impediment though.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Personally, I`d hope LAA move towards the better LUS medical. LUS should not have to lose that and LAA could certainly use the improvement to our plan.

That stumps me. Laa has already succombed, it seems, that some think that lus needs to lose everything, as opposed to laa getting our things and all of us enhancing a lus contract by several million. The company wants to ditch the cross utilization protections. Nobody can get displaced.
Whats in it for lus? Alot more than we have.

 

[WeAAsles]

So people are shocked that the dysfunctional Association is becoming more dysfunctional...Get out of here!!

AANOTOK who is the "Strategic Action Coordinator" there in DFW?

DFW guys really love their titles and Country music. And Mark Gray finally gets to blow his whistle again I guess?

 

[charlie Brown]

That stumps me. Laa has already succombed, it seems, that some think that lus needs to lose everything, as opposed to laa getting our things and all of us enhancing a lus contract by several million. The company wants to ditch the cross utilization protections. Nobody can get displaced.
Whats in it for lus? Alot more than we have.

Speaking for fleet. I do wish the TWU guys would get more on board with demanding a better Insurance. Other than WeAAsles it seems most if not all are content on here with the current Laa insurance. I can assure you that it will take all 12 people at that table to have any chance of getting a better insurance than the LAA crap. And I don't uderstand why you have posters on here hell bent that we are going to the LAA insurance. Anyone that's been around for any length of time should know that once you give up insurance, your never getting it back. Why agree the the LAA insurance when this company is making billions. I just don't get it.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Speaking for fleet. I do wish the TWU guys would get more on board with demanding a better Insurance. Other than WeAAsles it seems most if not all are content on here with the current Laa insurance. I can assure you that it will take all 12 people at that table to have any chance of getting a better insurance than the LAA crap. And I don't uderstand why you have posters on here hell bent that we are going to the LAA insurance. Anyone that's been around for any length of time should know that once you give up insurance, your never getting it back. Why agree the the LAA insurance when this company is making billions. I just don't get it.

^^^This^^^^

 

[charlie Brown]

I`m guessing the IAM is fat,dumb and happy. Why rock the boat? They have better holidays,overtime, holiday pay,shift differential and cheaper medical. The TWU membership has had it. We are pushing back and want to, at a minimum, enjoy parity with our IAM counterparts. It`s up to the IAM if they want in this fight. They are certainly welcome to join us at DFW on July 26th. AMTs, FSC, Facilities maintenance,Pilots and Flight attendants are all coming together that day. I`d hope the IAM shows up as well. Will this protest push the company to the table? No, but it is a push in the right direction. It is a building block to help get this thing done. Hopefully it will push the momentum and keep rolling thru other stations. IMHO, ORD got the ball rolling with their heated town hall meeting. I`m looking forward to the 26th. I hope to see our IAM brothers and sisters standing with us. -HOG

Just FYI. The IAM membership in Dfw has been told if they want to join you to do so. It's not like they have been told to stand down. If you want to know why it's not better organized on the IAM side, maybe the question should be asked why the Dfw guys didn't share this info to anyone at the table. Do they really want solidarity? I don't call that solidarity by doing your own thing and not letting anyone at the table know of your plans.

 

[Deleted member 14439]

Just FYI. The IAM membership in Dfw has been told if they want to join you to do so. It's not like they have been told to stand down. If you want to know why it's not better organized on the IAM side, maybe the question should be asked why the Dfw guys didn't share this info to anyone at the table. Do they really want solidarity? I don't call that solidarity by doing your own thing and not letting anyone at the table know of your plans.

Info noted

 

[charlie Brown]

Info noted

I appreciate you saying info noted. So I have a question for you since you appear that your from Dfw. Maybe I'm wrong. But obviously your a twu member. Do you call it solidarity, if the TWU never mentioned this at the table to the IAM side? I really would like to hear your opinion on it. Since in your post you state you hope the IAM joins in.

 

[Deleted member 14439]

I appreciate you saying info noted. So I have a question for you since you appear that your from Dfw. Maybe I'm wrong. But obviously your a twu member. Do you call it solidarity, if the TWU never mentioned this at the table to the IAM side? I really would like to hear your opinion on it. Since in your post you state you hope the IAM joins in.

If you guys are not talking amongst yourselves. That speaks volumes imho. The association is and has been a fractured, dysfunctional mess. Proven by the fact that the IAM was apparently not privy to plans for the upcoming pickets. I'd suggest you boys at the table get on the same doggone page asap!

 

[charlie Brown]

If you guys are not talking amongst yourselves. That speaks volumes imho. The association is and has been a fractured, dysfunctional mess. Proven by the fact that the IAM was apparently not privy to plans for the upcoming pickets. I'd suggest you boys at the table get on the same doggone page asap!

Good response to not answer my question. i thought we were on the same page up to this point. We have had very detailed discussions and I would say up to this point have a very good contract in the making. My point is that several TWU posters have asked where is the IAM and the solidarity. So my question to you again is. Do you consider it solidarity if the TWU never brought this to the table to the IAM side?? Simple question imo.

 

[AANOTOK]

Just FYI. The IAM membership in Dfw has been told if they want to join you to do so. It's not like they have been told to stand down. If you want to know why it's not better organized on the IAM side, maybe the question should be asked why the Dfw guys didn't share this info to anyone at the table. Do they really want solidarity? I don't call that solidarity by doing your own thing and not letting anyone at the table know of your plans.

The Association...a fine oiled machine running on all cylinders. CB, you have come on here in the past and stressed how well you guys get along and how you all are striving for the same thing. That comment above says otherwise. Sorry sir, many of us on the board called it from day one. Now a hint of "blame game" seeping out...I'll just chalk it up to frustration! 🙂