JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[MetalMover]

One reason drug costs are so high is (it wasn't all gop though)

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-acti...ers-gop-blocked-trump-proposal-on-drug-prices

The party in control of Congress is coming for worker's overtime next. LAA and LUS should not have to worry for now, as our overtime is contractual, but this is one of the big reasons why Union Leaders support and endorse Democrats. In some instances, there is not much of a difference between the parties, but when it comes to supporting labor there is a big difference between parties. I don't understand how a union member would support someone who obviously supports big business over labor.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ime-rules-for-workers/?utm_term=.3b2441cd4f21

This is in reply to other comments on this forum.

Obama really hated big business....$400,000 worth of one speech.

As far as negotiations go, many of us thought maybe, just maybe, they would take the pest of both the IAM and TWU contracts.....Maybe they want the worst of both?

 

[robbedagain]

LA LI That's truly insane 3800 times 2 is 7600 that for 2 vials that's completely out of control

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

LA LI That's truly insane 3800 times 2 is 7600 that for 2 vials that's completely out of control

Right.

Except that is the hospital cost.

The patient paid $39,652 per vial.

So times 2 that is $79,304 and another $3,742 related to other medical care expenses.

It's not hard to figure out where the real problem is. It's not hospital labor, it's the BS prices we pay for medical equipment and pharmaceuticals.

If the left really wanted to help Americans they would target their energies toward lowering these out of control cost not socializing them.

Socializing them is what created this mess to begin with.

 

[john john]

Even though they lost the baggage service work, I don't believe that anyone has lost their job over it. Sure some had to move to a different work area, but at least it's within the same station. Even with their last CBA, they have far superior scope language than fleet can ever hope to.

Many of our jobs will be lost in the future do to technology. So it is vital, to retain the work we have, so there will be jobs for the future. The argument that we gave up 403 BSO jobs to save jobs doesn't fly with me. The 403 BSO jobs are at LUS, what about the LAA jobs we would have gained if we retained BSO. People are always going to travel with bags, and bags are going to get lost. BSO is a job for the future. The company recognizes that, that's why they want to outsource BSO

 

[anotherdelay]

hanging out on jetnet. phx won the cargo cup....
Meetings are coming up. How in the heck has iam used 1 man bellys?

Let's maximze pay, vacation, medical, and strategically use scope, have geolocation pay.

Ready reserve is unavoidable, combine it with part time, to have caps on it and limit the use of part time to no more than 24 hour scheduled hour weeks. They can still c/s at will. Strong language for use of it, is a must. Id, lost time must be covered by full timers. Ready reserve cannot be used for id lost time, heavy days, or off schedule operations. Overtime must still be used for sick time as well to full timers only. Ready reserve is for bottom of the list only, after all other options have expired.

Catering gone. Why not try to organize the outsource people? In the b/k, LAA we lost cabin but kept Cargo. Catering is a lot less important than cargo and other fleet jobs in the long run. Its tough to argue for catering when some iam hubs/stations don't do it. In some stations, iam works with 1 man in the belly, catering guys can move to line, 2 man bellys is mandatory.

Sick time. 12 days a year for employees with over 10 years service time. 5 days for less. Maximize at 1200 hours.

vacation 6 weeks, and bring back flex, and increase it up to 10 days.

100k buy outs for guys with over 30 years. 75k for 25. 50 for 20.

 

[Albert]

Many of our jobs will be lost in the future do to technology. So it is vital, to retain the work we have, so there will be jobs for the future. The argument that we gave up 403 BSO jobs to save jobs doesn't fly with me. The 403 BSO jobs are at LUS, what about the LAA jobs we would have gained if we retained BSO. People are always going to travel with bags, and bags are going to get lost. BSO is a job for the future. The company recognizes that, that's why they want to outsource BSO

Funny you say that because a task that used to take 20 people to do now takes thirty. I don't know if it's added responsibility scanners push backs etc, In my opinion we are also less efficient than we were 35 years ago

 

[WeAAsles]

hanging out on jetnet. phx won the cargo cup....
Meetings are coming up. How in the heck has iam used 1 man bellys?

Let's maximze pay, vacation, medical, and strategically use scope, have geolocation pay.

Ready reserve is unavoidable, combine it with part time, to have caps on it and limit the use of part time to no more than 24 hour scheduled hour weeks. They can still c/s at will. Strong language for use of it, is a must. Id, lost time must be covered by full timers. Ready reserve cannot be used for id lost time, heavy days, or off schedule operations. Overtime must still be used for sick time as well to full timers only. Ready reserve is for bottom of the list only, after all other options have expired.

Catering gone. Why not try to organize the outsource people? In the b/k, LAA we lost cabin but kept Cargo. Catering is a lot less important than cargo and other fleet jobs in the long run. Its tough to argue for catering when some iam hubs/stations don't do it. In some stations, iam works with 1 man in the belly, catering guys can move to line, 2 man bellys is mandatory.

Sick time. 12 days a year for employees with over 10 years service time. 5 days for less. Maximize at 1200 hours.

vacation 6 weeks, and bring back flex, and increase it up to 10 days.

100k buy outs for guys with over 30 years. 75k for 25. 50 for 20.

Ready Reserve.

 

[AANOTOK]

Let's make this real simple for both AMT's and Fleet...
Charlie Brown and/or Prez, will the TWU be forced into the IAMPF, and, is there discussion about the company handing over the AA pension to the IAM? I await your response.

 

[Albert]

Let's make this real simple for both AMT's and Fleet...
Charlie Brown and/or Prez, will the TWU be forced into the IAMPF, and, is there discussion about the company handing over the AA pension to the IAM? I await your response.

They are not in the room with the big guys anymore AANOTOK. This is exactly when ,where and how these backdoor, under the table deals are made.For you past you mid-fifties it would be ludicrous

 

[AANOTOK]

They are not in the room with the big guys anymore AANOTOK. This is exactly when ,where and how these backdoor, under the table deals are made.For you past you mid-fifties it would be ludicrous

Agreed, as I carry 57 years around with me.

 

[psa8979]

Ready Reserve.

 

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[chilokie1]

Let's make this real simple for both AMT's and Fleet...
Charlie Brown and/or Prez, will the TWU be forced into the IAMPF, and, is there discussion about the company handing over the AA pension to the IAM? I await your response.

Hopefully now that the 2016 numbers show it being underfunded it is a dead issue and
the TWU agrees it is time to move on.

 

[charlie Brown]

They are not in the room with the big guys anymore AANOTOK. This is exactly when ,where and how these backdoor, under the table deals are made.For you past you mid-fifties it would be ludicrous

You are correct that we are not in the room anymore. However you are not correct on your backdoor deals. Everything is still shared and presented to the committee to review and approve. As far as answering Aanotoks question? I don't know at this time. I don't think they will be forced, but I also think after they have seen the PROJECTED rate for the pension. Most of the TWU won't have to be forced. And yes I say projected, because I am a firm believer that neither your pension, 401k, or social security are guaranteed. We need all of them and maybe if we are lucky we will get 2 of the 3.