JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[NYer]

Alright explain PRECISELY and CONCISELY what information you feel they should share that they are not sharing to the members in those updates?

Should they:

Put out details of the TA's they reached?
Say what Articles or ideas they are arguing over?
Inform on what they do outside of negotiations?
Let us know exactly what the Company hasn't moved off of?
Let us know exactly what they haven't moved off from?
Let us know whenever there are squabbles (Bet you'd love that one)
Let us know when a guy wasn't there because he had to take care of an issue with his family?
Let us know if a guy had a vacation planned last year to Hawaii with his wife?
Company schedules?
IAM schedules?
TWU schedules?
Individuals "personal" issues?

What EXACTLY do YOU feel they are not conveying out to the members?

(And I'm sure you'll come back with that conveying the difficulties of putting two contracts together schtick that's your usual MO)

You can't have a civil conversation.

 

[Albert]

HELL NO!!! More fun being a sideline agitation to certain people.

I'm whacking me them moles and they're personal agendas here Al. Steamrolling forward.

I'm looking forward to Weez's couch anti Nyer videos. Don't forget to have a couple of stouts before you start smearing. And make sure your couch has no dirty laundry on it

 

[WeAAsles]

Trump had the MSM NYer has the Weez. Trump overcame will NYer?

I got this a few hours ago. Here's that upcoming agenda. Rumor has it that NYer will be joining this ticket? Certain people have a nice dossier of E- Mails, pictures and have insiders (People NYer seems to trust) right in the very office where NYer keeps his Leather chair.

ALL shall come out in due time. Ouch!

(Nothing personal of course to Mr Campbell who's never gotten on my bad side)

 

[WeAAsles]

I'm looking forward to Weez's couch anti Nyer videos. Don't forget to have a couple of stouts before you start smearing. And make sure your couch has no dirty laundry on it

Plenty of room in my Laundry Basket Al. I got no dirty laundry that's going to need cleaning.

 

[NYer]

He doesn't want that because he agreed with, supported and sold the Association from day 1 under the mandate of his Masters.

He wants to sell that his own TWU (Current Leaders) have failed and continue to fail again for that "personal" agenda he has (Coming up soon BTW)

See. Your Bromance got in the way.

I have not mentioned any names, haven't mentioned that anyone failed, haven't thrown anyone under the bus. Haven't shared any "ordinal agenda."

Those are all your contributions.

You can do yourself a favor and respond to the words on the screen and not the voices in your head as you try to create some kind of conspiracy.

 

[NYer]

HELL NO!!! More fun being a sideline agitation to certain people.

I'm whacking me them moles and they're personal agendas here Al. Steamrolling forward.

There you go.

Admitting you're the one with the personal agenda.

Ironic.

 

[WeAAsles]

See. Your Bromance got in the way.

I have not mentioned any names, haven't mentioned that anyone failed, haven't thrown anyone under the bus. Haven't shared any "ordinal agenda."

Those are all your contributions.

You can do yourself a favor and respond to the words on the screen and not the voices in your head as you try to create some kind of conspiracy.

E-Mails, Pictures, Orders, conversations. The conversations of course being rumor and hearsay but NOT those other 3.

 

[WeAAsles]

There you go.

Admitting you're the one with the personal agenda.

Ironic.

What, you don't think moles should be whacked?

 

[NYer]

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I got this a few hours ago. Here's that upcoming agenda. Rumor has it that NYer will be joining this ticket? Certain people have a nice dossier of E- Mails, pictures and have insiders (People NYer seems to trust) right in the very office where NYer keeps his Leather chair.

ALL shall come out in due time. Ouch!

(Nothing personal of course to Mr Campbell who's never gotten on my bad side)

Wow. Working in rumors while at the same time condemning others that do the same. A new low bar to your credibility.

We'll, here's a fact. That's not happening.

On to your next item on your personal agenda.

 

[NYer]

E-Mails, Pictures, Orders, conversations. The conversations of course being rumor and hearsay but NOT those other 3.

Please. Share. Please!!!!

You can't, because it doesn't exist.

 

[WeAAsles]

Wow. Working in rumors while at the same time condemning others that do the same. A new low bar to your credibility.

We'll, here's a fact. That's not happening.

On to your next item on your personal agenda.

Actually it wouldn't be wise of the guy to touch you with a 10 foot pole.

Well at least he "might" get one or two of your delegates?

 

[WeAAsles]

Please. Share. Please!!!!

You can't, because it doesn't exist.

Oh no no no. Facebook. All in due time.

Be patient.

 

[WeAAsles]

Disagree Albert...this is a complicated process and the merging of two sets of CBA's isn't easy. They could certainly share more information that would help the Members understand the challenges they face.

An example. They talked about Hours of Work in several updates. What they didn't share, that might help to show the difficulties and differences in each CBA is the fact that the TWU CBA has a couple of paragraphs in that article but that's not the case for the IAM CBA. The IAM CBA, Hours of Work takes up about 8 pages and includes language our CBA has in at least 2 or 3 other Articles.

That paints a different picture as to why it might take more that a couple of weeks to TA an Article that we might see as only being two paragraphs.

Those details are lacking and is part of the reason the frustration level is so high.

You see there it is.

"The Association must spell out the differences and difficulties in trying to merge two different cultures and languages in each different CBA's to assist in alleviating the ongoing frustration the Membership has conveyed to ME in my meetings for which WE have continued to express thus satisfying our sworn duty of service"

In other words. Hey guys, our contracts are a little different.

Or Blah Blah Blah.

 

[NYer]

Oh no no no. Facebook. All in due time.

Be patient.

Riiiiiight...No personal agenda there.

 

[WeAAsles]

Another conversation taken over


Riiiiiight...No personal agenda there.

I just told you my agenda. Whack a Mole.