JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[gulfcoast1]

http://www.twulocal513.org/docs/2017 TODAY WE UNITE CAMPAIGN.pdf

 

[AANOTOK]

http://www.twulocal513.org/docs/2017 TODAY WE UNITE CAMPAIGN.pdf

...and what does the IAM posters and ad campaign look like. Again, the power of the Association was to have prevented this...A bit confusing if you ask me.

 

[bob@las-AA]

Pep rally!

 

[WeAAsles]

...and what does the IAM posters and ad campaign look like. Again, the power of the Association was to have prevented this...A bit confusing if you ask me.

Good unanswered questions unfortunately? Why has the Association or the IAM not had a campaign against the Airline?

 

[bob@las-AA]

 

[MetalMover]

...and what does the IAM posters and ad campaign look like. Again, the power of the Association was to have prevented this...A bit confusing if you ask me.

Sadly, the flying public does not care about union workers' woes. Although some may feel like this is an effective measure, I think it is just as provacative as the "WILL STRIKE IF PROVOKED" t-shirts.

 

[cltrat]

Sadly, the flying public does not care about union workers' woes. Although some may feel like this is an effective measure, I think it is just as provacative as the "WILL STRIKE IF PROVOKED" t-shirts.

pretty much most of think we're over paid and part of the reason their plane ticket is high

 

[WeAAsles]

pretty much most of think we're over paid and part of the reason their plane ticket is high

I agree with both you and Metal but the flying public also gets a little nervous about disgruntled Mechanics and Baggage Handlers if it could maybe interrupt their trip.

And most passengers are clueless about how much we make anyway.

 

[bob@las-AA]

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/273506/

 

[Jester]

https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/273506/

The meme within collective bargaining airline groups "We Have Given-Up So Much" has its origin at a time when the Civil Aeronautics Board guaranteed profits to airlines (with many conditions) and hefty wages increases were passed along in air fares as a cost-plus arrangement. Once de-regulation happened many of those same contracts continued on for a decade afterwards until the realization of bankruptcy occurred.

With too many airlines (especially with new entries) it became a race to the bottom in terms of fares and amenities, as seats were becoming little more than a homogeneous good, and internet transparency did not help pricing. The relatively recent mergers had the greatest benefit in the elimination of competition whereas there was once a highly competitive marketplace for airfares has become an oligopoly, and we as airline employees have benefited.

 

[MetalMover]

I agree with both you and Metal but the flying public also gets a little nervous about disgruntled Mechanics and Baggage Handlers if it could maybe interrupt their trip.

And most passengers are clueless about how much we make anyway.

True, but I truly believe they don't care about our contract or lack of.

 

[WeAAsles]

True, but I truly believe they don't care about our contract or lack of.

The overall majority absolutely don't care if we have a contract or not. All they care about is getting the most roomiest seat with amenities they can find on the net without any inconveniences to their trip.

Dealing with the reality that AA Ramp TOS makes around $20,000 per year more now than the average working American, makes our task honestly that much more difficult and the Company knows that.

But an effort still should be made to at least try to get their attention or at least make them a little nervous about their personal flight.

 

[MetalMover]

The overall majority absolutely don't care if we have a contract or not. All they care about is getting the most roomiest seat with amenities they can find on the net without any inconveniences to their trip.

Dealing with the reality that AA Ramp TOS makes around $20,000 per year more now than the average working American, makes our task honestly that much more difficult and the Company knows that.

But an effort still should be made to at least try to get their attention or at least make them a little nervous about their personal flight.

I agree to a point.. But when passengers entering a terminal see a picket line or informational picketing, they think they're going to get hosed either in a delay or service on board.

 

[WeAAsles]

I agree to a point.. But when passengers entering a terminal see a picket line or informational picketing, they think they're going to get hosed either in a delay or service on board.

Only if there is a huge participation rate. If the protest only gets a dozen or so people from city to city we do honestly run the risk of being laughed at or even worse pushed to the end of the terminal by some Politician with a filed injunction against us?

You have to be very smart in playing the cards dealt to you.

 

[AANOTOK]

So this is a Lombardo, TWU thing? What does Sito and the IAM have planned. You know, the other part of the Association (and the one who in my opinion controls the negotiations).