JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[WeAAsles]

And when can we expect this Gary dude to make an appearance, or maybe CB

I don't think at this time Gary will put out a special update? But we can always remain hopeful.

And I'd love to hear from P. Rez or Charlie Brown. It would be nice if they would/could fill in some of the blanks on that very ambiguous update?

Are some people in the Association under any type of gag order? And if so by who?

 

[Albert]

No olive branch. He's a highly entertaining adversary and keeps me sharp and on my toes.

Good mental Chess player.

OK then I would think calling you a fence sitter is quite an insult much worse than anything your omnipotent AMT friends have called you

 

[Albert]

I don't think at this time Gary will put out a special update? But we can always remain hopeful.

And I'd love to hear from P. Rez or Charlie Brown. It would be nice if they would/could fill in some of the blanks on that very ambiguous update?

Are some people in the Association under any type of gag order? And if so by who?

P Rez and CB are probably on the outside looking in at this point at least that is what I got from the updates and Weez we are waaaay down the trough (I'm really obnoxious today)

 

[WeAAsles]

OK then I would think calling you a fence sitter is quite an insult much worse than anything your omnipotent AMT friends have called you

He does it because it got under my skin at one time. But it's gotten kinda tiresome and a little old now. "My handlers" was pretty good for a quick rise.

He gets me about one out of every hundred or so I'll admit. Here's the one that drove him crazy Al

"Liar, cheater, man with no integrity or honor"

Or saying the DFW people were right about you. And once a guy put his head on a chicken and he went bonkers. (No joke)

 

[WeAAsles]

P Rez and CB are probably on the outside looking in at this point at least that is what I got from the updates and Weez we are waaaay down the trough (I'm really obnoxious today)

I highly doubt that. And I wasn't talking about you being obnoxious.

 

[NYer]

I have to admit W, I look forward to Gary's updates...

We have to rely on unofficial videos for updates?

 

[bob@las-AA]

We have to rely on unofficial videos for updates?

That's the beauty of his videos, they are entertaining at best.

 

[Talos]

"There is one source of official communications regarding these negotiations – that is those issued jointly by the TWU and IAM through this Association. Disregard all other rumors and treat the company’s road shows as entertaining events the company pays you to watch"

Then how about communicating instead of putting out worthless dribble on paper...

The Association is like a really dysfunctional family that goes out in public and acts like things are just great. The fact that people are asking serious questions at these road shows says a lot to the Association regarding their communication skills. Another 3 weeks off? Wow.

 

[WeAAsles]

We have to rely on unofficial videos for updates?

Well it seems to me like he has or wants to take the Leadership role and lately he's been doing a very good job at it so.

His last video was excellent BTW.

 

[NYer]

Well it seems to me like he has or wants to take the Leadership role and lately he's been doing a very good job at it so.

His last video was excellent BTW.

Do we believe or accept what is shared?

 

[WeAAsles]

Do we believe or accept what is shared?

We take in all the information we can get from all sources and we try to make our best judgement call on the most to least credible.

And we also need to go with what makes the most sense as well.

Take for instance the long gaps between negotiating sessions. It was Parker himself who said 2 weeks a month is enough. So should we assume that it's the fault of the Association when that's nothing they ever said or do we keep going with what Parker himself said?

In which case do we believe Isom when he said it takes two to tangle when asked about longer sessions? I'll go with the CEO on this one and place the blame on him then for all the stalls.

 

[NYer]

We take in all the information we can get from all sources and we try to make our best judgement call on the most to least credible.

And we also need to go with what makes the most sense as well.

Take for instance the long gaps between negotiating sessions. It was Parker himself who said 2 weeks a month is enough. So should we assume that it's the fault of the Association when that's nothing they ever said or do we keep going with what Parker himself said?

In which case do we believe Isom when he said it takes two to tangle when asked about longer sessions? I'll go with the CEO on this one and place the blame on him then for all the stalls.

How exactly do you decide what is credible with the information that's available? We get a generic letter and a video from someone not in the Fleet room who speaks only to his Members.

Wouldn't there be more credibility and support if there was more detailed information. A window into the challenges being faced.

Seems there will be some disappointment just because the proper expectations aren't being addressed.

 

[WeAAsles]

How exactly do you decide what is credible with the information that's available? We get a generic letter and a video from someone not in the Fleet room who speaks only to his Members.

Wouldn't there be more credibility and support of there was more detailed information. A window into the challenges being faced.

Seems there will be some disappointment just because the proper expectations aren't being addressed.

Brother you and I are finally on the same side of the fence on something. I agree with every single word you just wrote.

And BOTH Unions are not getting the job done in informing us.

 

[NYer]

Brother you and I are finally on the same side of the fence on something. I agree with every single word you just wrote.

And BOTH Unions are not getting the job done in informing us.

Yet, you have complete confidence.

Odd

 

[WeAAsles]

Yet, you have complete confidence.

Odd

With the Leaders having joined in now yes 100%. I have 100% confidence they will reach a deal I'll like and pass.

Never said I've loved their information skills though.