JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

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Albert that line about Hi I'm from the Federal Government and I'm here to help comes to mind


Well some on this thread and in other places have made it plain and clear that they don't care how long it takes as long as they don't run the risk of losing something in return. Essentially the line is we don't care at all about the other 70% of the total as long as IGM.

I'd like to hope if I was part of the benefitting 30% I'd be just a little more reasonable?
 
Well some on this thread and in other places have made it plain and clear that they don't care how long it takes as long as they don't run the risk of losing something in return. Essentially the line is we don't care at all about the other 70% of the total as long as IGM.

I'd like to hope if I was part of the benefitting 30% I'd be just a little more reasonable?
I could just imagine the crying ,holding ones breath till you're blue hissy fit if the shoe was on the other foot. You guys would look like the democrats on election night. I'll go as far as saying 75% of you would be walking around in pull-ups
 
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you don't hear me whining about how your CC's make .59 an hour more than I do even though that should have been pretty easy to change when this wage increase happen. It may not matter but I can tell you unless something else in the CBA changes my mind I will vote against anything that forces less insurance for more cost on me. esp for a company making billions and short changing us on profit sharing compared to UA and DL
 
you don't hear me whining about how your CC's make .59 an hour more than I do even though that should have been pretty easy to change when this wage increase happen. It may not matter but I can tell you unless something else in the CBA changes my mind I will vote against anything that forces less insurance for more cost on me. esp for a company making billions and short changing us on profit sharing compared to UA and DL


And ANOTHER reason why we need to get to a JCBA. At the end of the day being completely honest here it doesn't matter how either of us vote as long as the majority of the total members pass it.

This isn't supposed to be a battle between the two groups. This is supposed to be a joining in Unity.

And no vote will ever pass by 100% anyway.

But just so you know I highly doubt we will all go all the way down for your costs for medical. So you will have your voice counted I guess on that vote.
 
I could just imagine the crying ,holding ones breath till you're blue hissy fit if the shoe was on the other foot. You guys would look like the democrats on election night. I'll go as far as saying 75% of you would be walking around in pull-ups


Irrelevant Al. This has to end at some point. And since the talk mostly concerns that medical item I personally would have girded myself for the worst case possibility out of the 50% worth of raises I've gotten over the last few years.

Roughly $10.00 per hour rise equals $1600.00 per month. Some of that rise your guys should have been socking away against the possibility of going with our Medical plans.

If many of your members decided to spend all of that raise on possibly some frivolous items, you're not going to get any sympathy from me.

And it's still my "guess" that you're not going to pay the cost we pay today but yes you're costs are going to rise and ours will come down a little? (Again just my guess)
 
Bob, '17' AA FSC stations ?

It's been a 'while' since i tried to do this, but please fill in the blank #'s if I can't get to 17. Thanx.

1. BOS
2. JFK
3. LGA
4. PHL
5. DCA
6. CLT
7. MCO
8. MIA
9. ORD
10.DFW
11. LAS
12. PHX
13. LAX
14. SFO
15. SEA

16. ?
17. ?

I don't think CLT is TWU staffed. You are missing AUS SAT SJU and TPA I think. Not sure about SEA and PHL either.
 
CLT is not, and don't believe that it ever was TWU staffed. PHL was at one time, but was outsourced around the time of BK.
 
TWUIAM
ATL 146 88 58
AUS 90 90 0
BDL 59 0 59
BOS 367 174 193
BWI 90 0 90
CLT 1587 0 1587
DCA 501 128 373
DEN 90 0 90
DFW 3387 3224 163
EWR 86 0 86
FLL 110 0 110
JAX 61 0 61
JFK 787 766 21
LAS 216 93 123
LAX 959 824 135
LGA 390 212 178
MCI 40 0 40
MCO 212 110 102
MIA 2660 2568 92
MSP 81 0 81
ONT 21 0 21
ORD 1344 1239 105
PBI 46 0 46
PDX 50 0 50
PHL 1626 0 1626
PHX 1101 0 1101
PIT 109 0 109
PVD 39 0 39
RDU 67 0 67
RNO 20 0 20
SAN 46 0 46
SAT 65 65 0
SEA 97 0 97
SFO 209 141 68
SJC 26 0 26
SJU 114 114 0
SLC 37 0 37
SMF 29 0 29
STL 153 153 0
TPA 133 59 74
[TBODY]

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TWUIAM
ATL 146 88 58
AUS 90 90 0
BDL 59 0 59
BOS 367 174 193
BWI 90 0 90
CLT 1587 0 1587
DCA 501 128 373
DEN 90 0 90
DFW 3387 3224 163
EWR 86 0 86
FLL 110 0 110
JAX 61 0 61
JFK 787 766 21
LAS 216 93 123
LAX 959 824 135
LGA 390 212 178
MCI 40 0 40
MCO 212 110 102
MIA 2660 2568 92
MSP 81 0 81
ONT 21 0 21
ORD 1344 1239 105
PBI 46 0 46
PDX 50 0 50
PHL 1626 0 1626
PHX 1101 0 1101
PIT 109 0 109
PVD 39 0 39
RDU 67 0 67
RNO 20 0 20
SAN 46 0 46
SAT 65 65 0
SEA 97 0 97
SFO 209 141 68
SJC 26 0 26
SJU 114 114 0
SLC 37 0 37
SMF 29 0 29
STL 153 153 0
TPA 133 59 74
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Tremendous 'breakdown' Bob !!

Thanx !!!!!!!!
TWUIAM
ATL 146 88 58
AUS 90 90 0
BDL 59 0 59
BOS 367 174 193
BWI 90 0 90
CLT 1587 0 1587
DCA 501 128 373
DEN 90 0 90
DFW 3387 3224 163
EWR 86 0 86
FLL 110 0 110
JAX 61 0 61
JFK 787 766 21
LAS 216 93 123
LAX 959 824 135
LGA 390 212 178
MCI 40 0 40
MCO 212 110 102
MIA 2660 2568 92
MSP 81 0 81
ONT 21 0 21
ORD 1344 1239 105
PBI 46 0 46
PDX 50 0 50
PHL 1626 0 1626
PHX 1101 0 1101
PIT 109 0 109
PVD 39 0 39
RDU 67 0 67
RNO 20 0 20
SAN 46 0 46
SAT 65 65 0
SEA 97 0 97
SFO 209 141 68
SJC 26 0 26
SJU 114 114 0
SLC 37 0 37
SMF 29 0 29
STL 153 153 0
TPA 133 59 74
[TBODY] [/TBODY]


One more question Bob, please.
Take a station like ONT, with a mere 21 IAM union people in it.
After the joint JCBA, what's the likely hood that ONT stays open as a Union station. Would I be wrong in thinking that, as a Giving of decent raises, AA would be looking for a few 'sacrificial lambs/stations' ??
 
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