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maybe I'm missing something here what does him getting assistance for school have to do with what he posted?
 
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JFK Fleet Service said:
 

As previously posted. "Opinions are often based on personal experience". It tends to lead to beating a dead horse. Such input should be viewed accordingly. As stated; viewing your labor organization as the root of the problem is a bit of a reach IMO. 
 
cltrat said:
maybe I'm missing something here what does him getting assistance for school have to do with what he posted?
Absolutely nothing.
 
It is the only "dirt" they have on me after years of posting (despite all the controversial things I say on here, let that sink in) so it is their go-to to try to discredit me despite it not having a damn thing to do with the current topic. Yes, they are that petty and pathetic.
 
ograc said:
The party that is always trying to reduce the cost of it's workforce. The party that comes to the table reluctant to extend enhancements without meeting their "cost neutral" agenda. The party that was pulled back from the brink of liquidation through deep concessions from it's employees yet seems to have forgotten all of that. Even with the past and future forecasted profits they continue to hoard; not what I would describe as bargaining in good faith. The party that puts it's shareholders above it's customers and employees. Could representation be better? Everyone has an opinion. In many cases it is based on personal experience. Portraying the Association as the party trying to screw their own members is a bit of a reach IMO. 
 
Let me ask you this.
 
Which is more likely to attack the middle class.
 
A party that gets it's political power by supporting business that sells goods and services to the middle class.
 
Or a party that gets it's political power through generational welfare and government dependency. There is a reason Democrats always push entitlements.
 
Let that rattle around for a while and get back with me.
 
La Li Lu Le Lo said:
Let me ask you this.
 
Which is more likely to attack the middle class.
 
A party that gets it's political power by supporting business that sells goods and services to the middle class.
 
Or a party that gets it's political power through generational welfare and government dependency. There is a reason Democrats always push entitlements.
 
Let that rattle around for a while and get back with me.
Just leave so we can get back and stay on topic. You bring NOTHING!
 
La Li Lu Le Lo said:
Let me ask you this.
 
Which is more likely to attack the middle class.
 
A party that gets it's political power by supporting business that sells goods and services to the middle class.
 
Or a party that gets it's political power through generational welfare and government dependency. There is a reason Democrats always push entitlements.
 
Let that rattle around for a while and get back with me.
 
not really interested in debating politics. As far as I'm concerned none of them have the middle class interests in mind. You're dismissed!
 
 
Kev3188 said:
And yet you still managed to get government assistance for retraining, and somehow managed to land a job that to hear you tell it is way better than AA. Your rant is invalid.
When I worked in AA accounting (Triad) I never had issues. I had a calm productive work day.
 
My problems with AA did not start until I worked under the TWU flag.
 
At first I was very proud to be a member of the TWU. My father was a UNION man for almost 40 years and a UNION officer. I had a very positive view of UNIONs when I started. I even asked my wife to come and watch me be inducted.
 
I don't dislike the TWU because I am anti UNION. I dislike the TWU because they EARNED my dislike over a 12 year career with their manipulation, corruption, and behavior..
 
You try to use my state sponsored education to paint me a hypocrite but as in all things libtard it is based on a total lie. I never stated I was against any and all welfare. What I said is welfare should not be a lifestyle. The intent of welfare was to provide TEMPORARY assistance to get people though a rough time (like job loss for instance) not for people to spend their life smoking pot and playing PlayStation for decades courtesy of the tax payers. I got out of school Friday and Monday I had a full time job. There is a big difference between training to get back into the workforce and spending decades on welfare and you damn well know it. Just keep spreading your manipulations and lies though. That is what liberals do best, use a manipulative narrative based on a lie to push an agenda.
 
If I was so off base and wrong with my beliefs you would have something more than I got assistance to go to school almost 3 years ago. You keep pushing your narrative because you don't have anything else (after 3 years). Pathetic really,
 
AANOTOK said:
Just leave so we can get back and stay on topic. You bring NOTHING!
ograc said:
not really interested in debating politics. As far as I'm concerned none of them have the middle class interests in mind. You're dismissed!
Ograc opened the door when he stated "The ROOT of the problem is not the labor organization."
 
The labor organization is exactly the problem.
 
Your Association is more interested in funding politicians than representing you.
 
You don't think your UNION putting politicians agendas ahead of your standard of living while your funding them is a problem?
 
That is the very CORE of the problem.
 
Why can't you admit that?
 
Just continue to live life with your heads buried deep in the sand denying the obvious while being indoctrinated with UNION propaganda.
 
La Li Lu Le Lo said:
When I worked in AA accounting (Triad) I never had issues. I had a calm productive work day.
 
My problems with AA did not start until I worked under the TWU flag.
 
At first I was very proud to be a member of the TWU. My father was a UNION man for almost 40 years and a UNION officer. I had a very positive view of UNIONs when I started. I even asked my wife to come and watch me be inducted.
 
I don't dislike the TWU because I am anti UNION. I dislike the TWU because they EARNED my dislike over a 12 year career with their manipulation, corruption, and behavior..
 
You try to use my state sponsored education to paint me a hypocrite but as in all things libtard it is based on a total lie. I never stated I was against any and all welfare. What I said is welfare should not be a lifestyle. The intent of welfare was to provide TEMPORARY assistance to get people though a rough time (like job loss for instance) not for people to spend their life smoking pot and playing PlayStation for decades courtesy of the tax payers. I got out of school Friday and Monday I had a full time job. There is a big difference between training to get back into the workforce and spending decades on welfare and you damn well know it. Just keep spreading your manipulations and lies though. That is what liberals do best, use a manipulative narrative based on a lie to push an agenda.
 
If I was so off base and wrong with my beliefs you would have something more than I got assistance to go to school almost 3 years ago. You keep pushing your narrative because you don't have anything else (after 3 years). Pathetic really,
Let the adults talk. When we want to hear from you, someone'll pull the cord in your back.
 
Kev3188 said:
Let the adults talk. When we want to hear from you, someone'll pull the cord in your back.
You have no idea what an adult would talk about Kev. You are too busy living in your UNION indoctrinated, socialist, fantasy world.
 
My wife informed me our new benefit package (booklet) is in...anyone know how much our costs went up??
 
AANOTOK said:
My wife informed me our new benefit package (booklet) is in...anyone know how much our costs went up??
 
 
Value plan went up 10%...Standard and Core both went down .6%...I will save about 97 cents a month next year...
 
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