JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[Kev3188]

This Ass is ass.
 

Indeed...

 

[ograc]

I have heard that in some stations local management drags their feet on back filling authorized openings because they don't necessarily like who's next on the system transfer list. How about that?

 

[Worldport]

I have heard that in some stations local management drags their feet on back filling authorized openings because they don't necessarily like who's next on the system transfer list. How about that?

System list how would they know who it is? Local list  guys already working!

 

[AANOTOK]

I have heard that in some stations local management drags their feet on back filling authorized openings because they don't necessarily like who's next on the system transfer list. How about that?

If management is dragging their feet and it is not remedied immediately, then the Association is dragging it's feet as well. Yep, this outstanding, groundbreaking thought of combining two unions has put the fear of God into AA. 

 

[ograc]

If management is dragging their feet and it is not remedied immediately, then the Association is dragging it's feet as well. Yep, this outstanding, groundbreaking thought of combining two unions has put the fear of God into AA. 

 
I feel sorry for the one next up on system transfer. Because they are not viewed in a positive light by local management they are held hostage. The employees in the affected station are held hostage too. They continue to work short handed. It speaks volumes about the quality of management that remains in the new AA. So much for better labor relations. Same whore; new dress. A full time job making sure the company adheres to contractual language. There is no fear. So many battlefronts the company puts forward. How can any labor organization keep up? Death by a thousand cuts! The ROOT of the problem is not the labor organization.  

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

I feel sorry for the one next up on system transfer. Because they are not viewed in a positive light by local management they are held hostage. The employees in the affected station are held hostage too. They continue to work short handed. It speaks volumes about the quality of management that remains in the new AA. So much for better labor relations. Same whore; new dress. A full time job making sure the company adheres to contractual language. There is no fear. So many battlefronts the company puts forward. How can any labor organization keep up? Death by a thousand cuts! The ROOT of the problem is not the labor organization.  

Of course the ROOT of the problem is the labor organization.
 
The Association only exist for 2 purposes. To fund Democratic politicians and to create dependency within the membership.
 
You work for a Democrat funding machine. Making you feel powerless and incapable is in the UNIONs best interest. It is the same tactic a socialist uses. He creates a "victim" class and convinces them the only way they can succeed in life is with the help of government. Of course that help never leads to independence because then the socialist loses his power.
 
It is a con job.
 
You get it now?
 
Wake up man. The Association could care less about your standard of living. Why do you think they always try to keep your base pay the same or higher and allow the company to slash your benefits? The answer is slashing your benefits does not cost THEM any money. They could care less if you have decent vacation or sick time..........

 

[ograc]

Of course the ROOT of the problem is the labor organization.
 
The Association only exist for 2 purposes. To fund Democratic politicians and to create dependency within the membership.
 
You work for a Democrat funding machine. Making you feel powerless and incapable is in the UNIONs best interest. It is the same tactic a socialist uses. He creates a "victim" class and convinces them the only way they can succeed in life is with the help of government. Of course that help never leads to independence because then the socialist loses his power.
 
It is a con job.
 
You get it now?
 
Wake up man. The Association could care less about your standard of living. Why do you think they always try to keep your base pay the same or higher and allow the company to slash your benefits? The answer is slashing your benefits does not cost THEM any money. They could care less if you have decent vacation or sick time..........

 
Stand down. In your quick opinion and passion you, obviously, misread my post. I stated the ROOT of the problem is NOT the labor organization. My point is this... know thy true enemy. There are many who proclaim to see; yet remain blind. Thank you though for your opinion. You and I seem to disagree with who the TRUE enemy is. I am awake and I don't agree with your line of thinking. Get It? 
 

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Stand down. In your quick opinion and passion you, obviously, misread my post. I stated the ROOT of the problem is NOT the labor organization. My point is this... know thy true enemy. There are many who proclaim to see; yet remain blind. Thank you though for your opinion. You and I seem to disagree with who the TRUE enemy is. I am awake and I don't agree with your line of thinking. Get It? 

OK who is the "true" enemy in your opinion?

 

[john john]

OK who is the "true" enemy in your opinion?

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/training/dislocatedworkers
https://www.doleta.gov/
sarcasm & bait

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/training/dislocatedworkers
https://www.doleta.gov/
sarcasm & bait

How many people in Fleet Service do you think the DoL helped?
 
This is a letter I received for the DoL after being denied TAA.
 
I know there have been some additional calls from American Airlines workers inquiring about TRA/TAA benefits, resulting in a little confusion and frustration. I spoke with a Senior Attorney at American this afternoon and got some clarification. I am passing a long what I’ve learned. Hopefully it will help if there are more calls that come in.

What I learned….

The certification covers AA’s Maintenance and Related employees. For example, at the beginning of the petition it reads AMERICAN AIRLINES TULSA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE AND RELATED; and in the body of the certification it notes that these employees provide maintenance services for passenger aircraft. The Aircraft Maintenance & Related is a worker group at American that includes different types of mechanics, including employees associated with the main base visit maintenance check for the 777. That check of the 777 will be handled overseas and that is the reason that DOL has considered that group of workers trade impacted. Fleet Service employees do not fall into that worker group and their jobs are not considered trade impacted at this time.

I know of one claimant that has contacted about 4 different people today. I am forwarding this information to him and letting him know that if he feels he should be covered he would need to file a new petition with the DOL.
 
Just so you know the company saw fit to sponsor TEMPORARIES (contract help) working in offices for retraining but not Fleet Service, who actually had hands on the 777.

 

[robbedagain]

Here's a thing. Apparently per our station mgmt anytime we have shear pin breaks the push back drivers cannot push back a plane til they get "retrained" But it's also ok for mgmt to tell other agents who broke shear pins etc. My question is. Is this a company policy or is it a one policy mgmt can make up anyway they see for? We've had about 8 shear pins break just last 3 weeks and a ton more since this year alone

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Stand down. In your quick opinion and passion you, obviously, misread my post. I stated the ROOT of the problem is NOT the labor organization. My point is this... know thy true enemy. There are many who proclaim to see; yet remain blind. Thank you though for your opinion. You and I seem to disagree with who the TRUE enemy is. I am awake and I don't agree with your line of thinking. Get It?

ograc I am waiting to hear who you think the "real" enemy is.

 

[ograc]

OK who is the "true" enemy in your opinion?

 
The party that is always trying to reduce the cost of it's workforce. The party that comes to the table reluctant to extend enhancements without meeting their "cost neutral" agenda. The party that was pulled back from the brink of liquidation through deep concessions from it's employees yet seems to have forgotten all of that. Even with the past and future forecasted profits they continue to hoard; not what I would describe as bargaining in good faith. The party that puts it's shareholders above it's customers and employees. Could representation be better? Everyone has an opinion. In many cases it is based on personal experience. Portraying the Association as the party trying to screw their own members is a bit of a reach IMO. 
 

 

[john john]

This is a letter I received for the DoL after being denied TAA.

but yet you received government assistance

 

[Kev3188]

How many people in Fleet Service do you think the DoL helped?
 
This is a letter I received for the DoL after being denied TAA.
 
I know there have been some additional calls from American Airlines workers inquiring about TRA/TAA benefits, resulting in a little confusion and frustration. I spoke with a Senior Attorney at American this afternoon and got some clarification. I am passing a long what Ive learned. Hopefully it will help if there are more calls that come in.

What I learned.

The certification covers AAs Maintenance and Related employees. For example, at the beginning of the petition it reads AMERICAN AIRLINES TULSA INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE AND RELATED; and in the body of the certification it notes that these employees provide maintenance services for passenger aircraft. The Aircraft Maintenance & Related is a worker group at American that includes different types of mechanics, including employees associated with the main base visit maintenance check for the 777. That check of the 777 will be handled overseas and that is the reason that DOL has considered that group of workers trade impacted. Fleet Service employees do not fall into that worker group and their jobs are not considered trade impacted at this time.

I know of one claimant that has contacted about 4 different people today. I am forwarding this information to him and letting him know that if he feels he should be covered he would need to file a new petition with the DOL.
 
Just so you know the company saw fit to sponsor TEMPORARIES (contract help) working in offices for retraining but not Fleet Service, who actually had hands on the 777.

And yet you still managed to get government assistance for retraining, and somehow managed to land a job that to hear you tell it is way better than AA. Your rant is invalid.

Take a seat, LaLi.