JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[WeAAsles]

Now is the time to bury the hatchet and have that cup of coffee

No not that guy. On that guy the coffee invite is always open

 

[bob@las-AA]

Now is the time to bury the hatchet and have that cup of coffee

The weez, your self and I should meet in MIA some day over a cup of café con letche

 

[Worldport]

The weez, your self and I should meet in MIA some day over a cup of café con letche

No I'm going to TX to find out what this chicken fried steak is. Is it chicken or beef. Who calls chicken steak? Do they fry beef in chicken fat?

 

[bob@las-AA]

No I'm going to TX to find out what this chicken fried steak is. Is it chicken or beef. Who calls chicken steak? Do they fry beef in chicken fat?

 
Its cube steak battered like chicken and fried to golden perfection. 

 

[Worldport]

 
Its cube steak battered like chicken and fried to golden perfection. 

Sounds like you read that off a menu. It can't be a good cut of beef if you are going to batter it and fry it

 

[bob@las-AA]

Sounds like you read that off a menu. It can't be a good cut of beef if you are going to batter it and fry it

It has a little grizzle in it but it's good.

 

[Rogallo]

Either way I congratulate all of our mechanics. I heard partly the deal came through because you guys were putting the screws to the company.

You guys all more than earned and deserve your raises.

 
Yes, and thanks.
 
We all deserve these long overdue raises!

 

[WeAAsles]

The weez, your self and I should meet in MIA some day over a cup of café con letche

Deal. But I don't drink the Cuban. Prefer Juan Valdez.

 

[Other People]

This has nothing to do with integration. 2 separate issues. Integration wont come until sometime after a jcba

Heard you guys aren't voting on this, is that true? Since when does a union give up work so another union can do your work everywhere, if management needs?
Looks like the union bit on the money and gave up every last ounce of leverage they had by agreeing to cross utilization. Tell me it ain't so tim?

 

[WeAAsles]

Heard you guys aren't voting on this, is that true? Since when does a union give up work so another union can do your work everywhere, if management needs?Looks like the union bit on the money and gave up every last ounce of leverage they had by agreeing to cross utilization. Tell me it ain't so tim?

It is so. To the tune of $63,000 per year TOS clerk, $67,000 per year TOS Crew Chief.

Not counting thousands more per year in 401k match.

Regards
Tim
Josh
Other guy
Jerry Glass
Alfred Nueman

 

[AANOTOK]

Heard you guys aren't voting on this, is that true? Since when does a union give up work so another union can do your work everywhere, if management needs?
Looks like the union bit on the money and gave up every last ounce of leverage they had by agreeing to cross utilization. Tell me it ain't so tim?

I don't get some of you guys. The biggest concern for many was the money. Guess what, they got the money. Now, other articles can be looked at by the members without money blurring their vision. if what AA offers is bad, vote no...still got this money. Cross Utilization was gonna be in the JCBA anyway. I'm really not seeing your point.

 

[WeAAsles]

I don't get some of you guys. The biggest concern for many was the money. Guess what, they got the money. Now, other articles can be looked at by the members without money blurring their vision. if what AA offers is bad, vote no...still got this money. Cross Utilization was gonna be in the JCBA anyway. I'm really not seeing your point.

The point is to continue to try to divide and conquer. To make the Association look bad. Whether they (the rock throwers) like it or not, today the Association came through.

Let the creeps pound sand.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Heard you guys aren't voting on this, is that true? Since when does a union give up work so another union can do your work everywhere, if management needs?
Looks like the union bit on the money and gave up every last ounce of leverage they had by agreeing to cross utilization. Tell me it ain't so tim?

First off, my perspective is from a LUS perspective, i.e., IAM. The cross utilization was already happening regarding the IAM's work, so this agreement gave up nothing along those lines. In fact, this agreement increased work on our end since the TWU gave up cross utilization. Not busting on the TWU, just merely making a point that, from my perspective, we didn't lose work at all. This is the first contract I have supported as an IAM member. I refrained from supporting the last contract although I didn't campaign against it. This contract has my support because it serves our members and puts the members first by"
1. Best wage in the industry
2. Best health care in the industry
3. best scope in the industry
4. Keep part time caps.
5. due to cross utilization, best job protection in the industry as nobody can be laid off in a cross utilized station.

In fact, a case can be made for the IAM to just walk away from negotiations until 2017. I personally am not comfortable with having only 5 weeks of vacation, only 7 holidays, and a sick day disaster, no shift differ, and restrictions on double time, mimimal retirement contribution. That said, we can reduce what I just said to the want of 10 more paid days off and an enhanced retirement contribution. IMO, we ought to consider this a few touchdowns in the first half and only a FG for management [TWU cross utilization]. A second half to play so we still ought to be able to pick a few things up.

But, yes, I support this agreement as I think it represents the desires of the members and rightly reflects many of their past sacrifices without giving up nothing on the IAM side. So the question is, what leverage does Parker have to get us to sign a new deal, if such a deal isn't also a net positive gain?

 

[WeAAsles]

First off, my perspective is from a LUS perspective, i.e., IAM. The cross utilization was already happening regarding the IAM's work, so this agreement gave up nothing along those lines. In fact, this agreement increased work on our end since the TWU gave up cross utilization. Not busting on the TWU, just merely making a point that, from my perspective, we didn't lose work at all. This is the first contract I have supported as an IAM member. I refrained from supporting the last contract although I didn't campaign against it. This contract has my support because it serves our members and puts the members first by"1. Best wage in the industry2. Best health care in the industry3. best scope in the industry4. Keep part time caps.5. due to cross utilization, best job protection in the industry as nobody can be laid off in a cross utilized station.In fact, a case can be made for the IAM to just walk away from negotiations until 2017. I personally am not comfortable with having only 5 weeks of vacation, only 7 holidays, and a sick day disaster, no shift differ, and restrictions on double time, mimimal retirement contribution. That said, we can reduce what I just said to the want of 10 more paid days off and an enhanced retirement contribution. IMO, we ought to consider this a few touchdowns in the first half and only a FG for management [TWU cross utilization]. A second half to play so we still ought to be able to pick a few things up.But, yes, I support this agreement as I think it represents the desires of the members and rightly reflects many of their past sacrifices without giving up nothing on the IAM side. So the question is, what leverage does Parker have to get us to sign a new deal, if such a deal isn't also a net positive gain?

LMFAO. Forget it Tim, you're done. It's over man. Tell your boy Glass thanks too. Might as well throw out the thanks to everyone out there.

But it's probably time for them to take you off the payroll now?

 

[Worldport]

The point is to continue to try to divide and conquer. To make the Association look bad. Whether they (the rock throwers) like it or not, today the Association came through.

Let the creeps pound sand.

Weez the Association? This is probably 95% the the company's doing