JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[AANOTOK]

yes they are

Thanks cltrat...always look forward to Fridays, just hoping...

 

[Worldport]

Operative word, "had" Paste tense. Except for Forums I've heard they've done a pretty good job of neutering him.

I think you are just hearing one side of the story. They will probably hire him back and give him access to the private jet if he comes out against their efforts with Delta and Jetblue.  

 

[Worldport]

Thanks cltrat...always look forward to Fridays, just hoping...

And then you are let down, at least you have the weekend to drink your sorrows away

 

[AANOTOK]

And then you are let down, at least you have the weekend to drink your sorrows away

You pretty much nailed it, Worldport!

 

[bob@las-AA]

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[WeAAsles]

I think you are just hearing one side of the story. They will probably hire him back and give him access to the private jet if he comes out against their efforts with Delta and Jetblue.

That was the group that rewarded him for supporting them. Then they fired him (or he quit) and he turned on them. I don't think the group that's in now would ever even give him the time of day IMO. But then again it's their Political machine, not mine.

 

[Kev3188]

Tim make sure you use my real name in your video. I want you to put it out there publicly how I'm trying to sell out all my TWU members to gain access to the IAMPF. And the second you put it out I'm going to make sure to record it on my phone since you have a tendency of deleting your videos a day or two after you put them out. I'll make sure to put them out myself on all the Facebook pages.

Stop talking about this video your going to make and get cracking. Cmon tough guy.

What happened to "couldn't care less?"

 

[Tim Nelson]

That was the group that rewarded him for supporting them. Then they fired him (or he quit) and he turned on them. I don't think the group that's in now would ever even give him the time of day IMO. But then again it's their Political machine, not mine.

I never turned on who i supported. I supported the members and that was my primary. Dis bernie sanders supporters turn on him when he told them to vote for hillary? Its not the supporters that changed but the messenger. My interest in delaney was that he agreed to support more transparency, accountability, and to lean back towards fighting machinists. I supported that message. However delaney breached that message by abolishing stand alone talks over at united. Within 24 hours of that announcement i told him i could not in good conscience keep bringing members into the iam and blew up at him. Therefore we parted ways.
I could care less about credit or credibility. I gave sito credit for our last ta and didnt campaign against it cuz it was inside the margins of fairness. I didnt butter up to him unless you call giving a brother credit buttering up.

And i thought, and still do think the Association was a brilliant idea and gave him credit for that. However putting the idea in practice has thus far been a complete disaster. And forcing 90 day talks at united by boosting wages but leaving multiple awful big articles alone has exposed our members at united. So, since i dont butter up, im free to speak my mind about this disastrous timetable at american. Very few members support the actions thus far of these morons. Very few. And the situation has amounted to mounting losses for our people, and a ceo calling out our 2 organizations, not so subtly, and tossing his hands up and effectively saying "this isnt working and maybe we need a new approach".

He appeared to say that he is negotiating against monkeys. Prez says the blame is parkers but when i review parkers actions, i come away seeing him not only delivering on his promises to 85,000 other employees but also giving them more than the unions agreed to.

So i cant totally blame parker.

 

[Worldport]

That was the group that rewarded him for supporting them. Then they fired him (or he quit) and he turned on them. I don't think the group that's in now would ever even give him the time of day IMO. But then again it's their Political machine, not mine.

Politics makes  strange bedfellows.Tim can use social media as a tool something he didn't have in the 90s. Lets see if this video mentions you and gets your goat

 

[Worldport]

Reading another article I never realized how small the TWU is and what a large percentage of it's membership AA employees are.With this clout I would think the members would be calling the shots. With all the complaining it doesn't appear to be that way. Hey Conehead I see you're reading I need a new keyfob for my car do you guys do that Ha Ha

 

[WeAAsles]

I never turned on who i supported. I supported the members and that was my primary. Dis bernie sanders supporters turn on him when he told them to vote for hillary? Its not the supporters that changed but the messenger. My interest in delaney was that he agreed to support more transparency, accountability, and to lean back towards fighting machinists. I supported that message. However delaney breached that message by abolishing stand alone talks over at united. Within 24 hours of that announcement i told him i could not in good conscience keep bringing members into the iam and blew up at him. Therefore we parted ways.
I could care less about credit or credibility. I gave sito credit for our last ta and didnt campaign against it cuz it was inside the margins of fairness. I didnt butter up to him unless you call giving a brother credit buttering up.
And i thought, and still do think the Association was a brilliant idea and gave him credit for that. However putting the idea in practice has thus far been a complete disaster. And forcing 90 day talks at united by boosting wages but leaving multiple awful big articles alone has exposed our members at united. So, since i dont butter up, im free to speak my mind about this disastrous timetable at american. Very few members support the actions thus far of these morons. Very few. And the situation has amounted to mounting losses for our people, and a ceo calling out our 2 organizations, not so subtly, and tossing his hands up and effectively saying "this isnt working and maybe we need a new approach".
He appeared to say that he is negotiating against monkeys. Prez says the blame is parkers but when i review parkers actions, i come away seeing him not only delivering on his promises to 85,000 other employees but also giving them more than the unions agreed to.
So i cant totally blame parker.

I LOVE how you keep admitting that you could care less about being "Credible" Every time you say that you just keep admitting that you prefer to lie. You've said it more than once now on this thread.

Again to repeat what Tim Nelson has said and continues to say "I could care less about credibility"

The personal agenda far outweighs sincerity. (Being honest)

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/credibility

My Mom said to me many times, "You can trust a theif but you can't trust a liar"

 

[WeAAsles]

Politics makes  strange bedfellows.Tim can use social media as a tool something he didn't have in the 90s. Lets see if this video mentions you and gets your goat

Actually if he mentions me by name he's not going to get my goat. I'll be very happy.

 

[WeAAsles]

Reading another article I never realized how small the TWU is and what a large percentage of it's membership AA employees are.With this clout I would think the members would be calling the shots. With all the complaining it doesn't appear to be that way. Hey Conehead I see you're reading I need a new keyfob for my car do you guys do that Ha Ha

Actually Local 100 in NYC and the TWU at SWA are larger than AA.

 

[Worldport]

Actually Local 100 in NYC and the TWU at SWA are larger than AA.

49,000 members after the contracts are  complete how many AA members? I would say that's a large percentage compared to LUS  members and the IAM

 

[robbedagain]

one more item that should be taken into consideration.. how about having a time period before mandatory OT for operational issues.    currently our 2013 agreement states within 1 hr prior to shift ending     Just 2 days ago our station received some 15 or so give or take diversions by far more than any other city  due to the thunderstorm activity from PHL on northward    One of the flights came in had Calif Gov on board.  we had 3 diverts on 3 gates plus 2 of our reg flights on the other 2   The state refused to give us more gates to use   meanwhile the nightmare at BWI continued  as we filled the freight ramp with 4 more flights...one with calif gov.   only had 5 agents total    mgmt failed to get some of the part timers to stay   I got off at my reg time and came in the next day and it was real bad   I got 4.5 hrs of OT so not bad for me ...    but mgmt. failed  as usual and never got help   yesterday the shift mgr really took it out and threaten to mando everyone on afternoon  yet we had just 2 late arrivals... my DFW 1106 and PHX 1479    both made up lit time.   most of the diverts were LAA planes whose flight crews failed to acknowledge dispatchers we had no gate space   all planes that sat out by Runway 28 had 2hrs and 55 min hold out there.....  some mighty angry peeps on board I personally don't care for LAA flight crews compared to LUS crews as LAA crews are rude and get in your way when cleaning planes  LUS crews go out of there way to help clean planes   at least in our city they do