JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet

[Tim Nelson]

Mr. Brown, there is actually a very simple explanation for all of this...

Personality A got information from Fly B that Catering was good in August...
Personality B thought Catering was gone, due to erroneous information from Fly C...
Personalities C through F were preoccupied with typing replies under pseudonyms in Airline Forums and Facebook, so they were completely unaware of the explanations that A and B had previously rendered...

Meanwhile... the daily calls to the DOL were distracting all personalities from concentrating on the matter fully.

>SPIT<

A fly on the wall mentions things and i pass it along to bosses like Mr Baskett so they can check it out and review it. Me thinks that Sito doesnt share everything in negotiations with the committee.
I have no opinion if the info is true or not, i just pass it along. I have no idea why catering was apparently protected last august but now apparently is toast.
Although i believe we should keep catering, im outnumbered as most could care less about lus catering.
$33 = 95% yes vote especially if there is a bonus, but id caustion our members to read the enire ta, but they dont listen.

 

[WeAAsles]

A fly on the wall mentions things and i pass it along to bosses like Mr Baskett so they can check it out and review it. Me thinks that Sito doesnt share everything in negotiations with the committee.
I have no opinion if the info is true or not, i just pass it along. I have no idea why catering was apparently protected last august but now apparently is toast.
Although i believe we should keep catering, im outnumbered as most could care less about lus catering.
$33 = 95% yes vote especially if there is a bonus, but id caustion our members to read the enire ta, but they dont listen.

Hey look Tim. Matt gave me honorable mention.

 

[WeAAsles]

A fly on the wall mentions things and i pass it along to bosses like Mr Baskett so they can check it out and review it. Me thinks that Sito doesnt share everything in negotiations with the committee.
I have no opinion if the info is true or not, i just pass it along. I have no idea why catering was apparently protected last august but now apparently is toast.
Although i believe we should keep catering, im outnumbered as most could care less about lus catering.
$33 = 95% yes vote especially if there is a bonus, but id caustion our members to read the enire ta, but they dont listen.

Sorry buddy but that guy Racer X in 2 days gains more “credibility” than you do in 20 years.

He says Catering stays in current cities but doesn’t get any new ones added in (His Fly) and I believe him.

I also wouldn’t be surprised to see Freight added in to some of your cities and I’m wondering what the conversations have been like in picking Mail back up at least where we used to handle it?

You might also be picking up Lav’s and Water on your side too? Much of this work we perform on the TWU side probably explains why we have so many more TWU heads than you have?

 

[Tim Nelson]

Sorry buddy but that guy Racer X in 2 days gains more “credibility” than you do in 20 years.

He says Catering stays in current cities but doesn’t get any new ones added in (His Fly) and I believe him.

I also wouldn’t be surprised to see Freight added in to some of your cities and I’m wondering what the conversations have been like in picking Mail back up at least where we used to handle it?

You might also be picking up Lav’s and Water on your side too? Much of this work we perform on the TWU side probably explains why we have so many more TWU heads than you have?

You have more twu heads because your airline was twice as big but your suck union gave up most your work. Yes, we are getting a couple more cargo centers but thats common knowledge. Finally twu members will have additional opportunities and wont be limited to 17 stations. Because of lus, you may even bid clp or tower and finally have scope that is closer to lus.
Honestly, laa twu was so weak that the jcba wont look nearly as good to any lus as it will for laa since the twu rolled over worse than delta. After parker gives you holiday pay, double time, etc., you will not only b closer to delta but be ecstatic.

 

[WeAAsles]

Personally I think 770 to 20 may be tough to overcome even if the DoL allows your supporters to vote twice

The DOL must really enjoy Tim little nasally voice if they would stay on the phone with him for a full marathon session 12 hours?

Personally I would think a Government office would probably only be open from 9 to 5 but perhaps Tim is so mesmerizing a conversationalist that they kept the building open till 9 that night just for him?

BTW what was that vote tally again you say? 770 to 20. Yick Sad. 770 to 20.

 

[WeAAsles]

You have more twu heads because your airline was twice as big but your suck union gave up most your work. Yes, we are getting a couple more cargo centers but thats common knowledge. Finally twu members will have additional opportunities and wont be limited to 17 stations. Because of lus, you may even bid clp or tower and finally have scope that is closer to lus.
Honestly, laa twu was so weak that the jcba wont look nearly as good to any lus as it will for laa since the twu rolled over worse than delta. After parker gives you holiday pay, double time, etc., you will not only b closer to delta but be ecstatic.

Ah there you are. Good morning.

Yes the TWU, IAM, IBT, CWA, AMFA, AFA, APA, ALPA, APFA, ETC were ALL suck Unions giving up chit with those BK Guns to the head.

Oh if we had only just listened and voted in the AGW led by Little Napoleon we would have all been just fine. But we just DON’T listen. Dammit.

But anyway as far as SCOPE for Station Staffing yes the TWU chose to sell the farm to keep our Pensions longer (What happened to your DBP? Killed in 1995 or something) and actually (Fleet) had a higher compensation package overall than you did for a VERY long time Joe Piedmont.

Don’t care much about the holiday pay myself. I plan to convert it to more days off if possible. And unlike your poor old soul I don’t need to work (gasp) 15 hours of OT per week just to survive so you’re not selling me on that one either bro. BTW didn’t you say you’ll have to work till 70 or something? Sad.

BTW Tim you’re welcome. If the TWU (Your Union soon) hadn’t supported the merger maybe there would have been no merger and you’d still be stuck in your rut eating those 3 times weekly Ramen Noodles for dinner on your tray in front of your old tube TV. You’re welcome Bro.

 

[WeAAsles]

You have more twu heads because your airline was twice as big but your suck union gave up most your work. Yes, we are getting a couple more cargo centers but thats common knowledge. Finally twu members will have additional opportunities and wont be limited to 17 stations. Because of lus, you may even bid clp or tower and finally have scope that is closer to lus.
Honestly, laa twu was so weak that the jcba wont look nearly as good to any lus as it will for laa since the twu rolled over worse than delta. After parker gives you holiday pay, double time, etc., you will not only b closer to delta but be ecstatic.

Hey Joe Piedmont I wanted to share this with you even though I know how much it hurts to relive. Go compare AA to US from the years 2014 back and you can cry cry cry.

Look particularly for “Passenger Cargo and Aircraft Handling” Pay and other Benefits. Sad.

http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/default.html

 

[Racer X]

Sorry buddy but that guy Racer X in 2 days gains more “credibility” than you do in 20 years.

He says Catering stays in current cities but doesn’t get any new ones added in (His Fly) and I believe him.

I also wouldn’t be surprised to see Freight added in to some of your cities and I’m wondering what the conversations have been like in picking Mail back up at least where we used to handle it?

You might also be picking up Lav’s and Water on your side too? Much of this work we perform on the TWU side probably explains why we have so many more TWU heads than you have?

Thanks Weaas.
Just trying to put out the info I hear.
As far as Lav and water, LUS does that work in some cities ( Phl..is one) But that work is not protected. I hear ONE objective is to get language that secures that work.

 

[bob@las-AA]

Hey look Tim. Matt gave me honorable mention.

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I confused, how did Timmy make it on and TWU page.

 

[WeAAsles]

I confused, how did Timmy make it on and TWU page.

That’s a Timmy designed, operated, run, monitored and censored wholly controlled Group Page Bob. If you’re on there check out the one lonely little admin.

Hint: His name isn’t Kim Jong Un but he does share the same nickname “Little Rocket Man”

 

[WeAAsles]

Thanks Weaas.
Just trying to put out the info I hear.
As far as Lav and water, LUS does that work in some cities ( Phl..is one) But that work is not protected. I hear ONE objective is to get language that secures that work.

Hey Racer your little birdies hear anything about “shift continuance/penalty hours”

One minute I hear chirp chirp chirp on it, then I hear the breeze, then I hear chirping, then it’s back to farts in the wind?

 

[Steve Walegir]

Hey look Tim. Matt gave me honorable mention.

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I was going to say something to you about your mention in the post, but working all these Eagle flights gets busy and time flys quickly. Apparently when I told Jim Jones err timmy to not belittle the membership because he lost because it sounds like sour grapes he took offense. But Damn I didn't know he lost that badly. Oh well I guess he can always try to take over the ginmill workers union. Wow 770-20, wait 770-20 and Sito is so despised as we are told?!? Wait 770-20 I had to read that again.

 

[PIEDMONT784]

I was going to say something to you about your mention in the post, but working all these Eagle flights gets busy and time flys quickly. Apparently when I told Him Jones err timmy to not belittle the membership because he lost because it sounds like sour grapes he took offense. But Damn I didn't know he lost that badly. Oh well I guess he can always try to take over the ginmill workers union. Wow 770-20, wait 770-20 and Sito is so despised as we are told?!? Wait 770-20 I had to read that again.

The '20' were probably composed of a Bank Teller, and various social media pseudonyms voting multiple times!

>SPIT<

 

[PIEDMONT784]

When it comes to trusting information posted in here... TN has ZERO credibility...
Even the dude working the drive thru at Taco Bell has more credible information regarding negotiations than him!

>SPIT<

 

[WeAAsles]

I was going to say something to you about your mention in the post, but working all these Eagle flights gets busy and time flys quickly. Apparently when I told Him Jones err timmy to not belittle the membership because he lost because it sounds like sour grapes he took offense. But Damn I didn't know he lost that badly. Oh well I guess he can always try to take over the ginmill workers union. Wow 770-20, wait 770-20 and Sito is so despised as we are told?!? Wait 770-20 I had to read that again.

Hey Steve. Yea man I’m sorry you were placed in the Cornfield with me. At least Timmy didn’t make us into Jack in the Box heads.

Yea I heard Tim got hosed right up there with no gel, 770 to 20. Tim has yet to admit it though and keeps calling the DOL at all hours trying to get them to reopen the polls. Sad.

How’s it going working those little birds BTW? Kinda like gettin back in the old Fokker bellies?