JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet. **New and improved 2.0 version**

[WeAAsles]

Also weez, to add a little about your DAT question. Here at SWA we have the option prior to new year start but after we bid our annual bid locations and days off to trade in our holidays as floating holidays. This way we can add 9 F/H's along with the 2 F/H's and birthday F/H for a total of 12 total F/H's to use anytime we want. If we trade them in then we get the holiday off without pay, but we do get paid 8 hours on the day we take the F/H off. If we elect not to trade them we get the holiday off with pay for 8 hrs. or if we work O/T on a holiday off our regular scheduled shift at 1.5, and work holiday on our regular schedule shift it would be triple time. That's all the options we have for the F/H's. Hope that helps a little more.

Ok I’m sure they’ll be more flexibility for DAT and COMP time coming over to the TWU side once we get the JCBA and as the flexibility seems to be industry standard.

I’m sure it will be at least somewhat Station specific how they deal it out but if it’s not that much of headache to use the days, again I look forward to the change.

 

[Kev3188]

... I don’t care what Jimmy Snuka said...

Lol. Awesome.

 

[The Watcher]

The language at US is the same system wide.

Only thing is each station has their own allotment of how many are allowed off each day due to each station is different amount of total vacation the employees have.

No local agreements.

 

[robbedagain]

WeAA what stations did AA lose? The other part was in STL did AA keep the ramp mainline under the TWU

 

[Tim Nelson]

UNLIMITED pt???? NO Way NO How!!! I don’t care what Jimmy Snuka said. PT cap is going to be a percentage of FT agents or like current IAM language, percentage of total.
As I showed in other posts that percentage calculation is a bit tricky. IAM currently has language of 40%Pt of Total employees. ( although I believe we are at roughly 32% currently). If we get language to get percentage of FT employees it can be a nice enhancement.

The no-displacement policy has truly limited things and has allowed the pt % to drop. But no, the pt % cap wont stay at 40%.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim/Josh referred to us all as "unintelligents" -- which is not even a word!

With that observation, along with the simple fact that we have all figured out the puppet poster(s) deception tactics...
It seems Forest Gump was correct... "Stupid is as Stupid does"! Anyone that has to use deception, and fear tactics for personal or political gain is certainly not suited for ANY leadership role anywhere!

Wait... I take that Back... Putin's Troll Farm would promote him to any position he wanted...

Did you look up that word? Lol. Yea, so anyways, it's an expression and a word but not all words are official or become officially recognized by websters unless they are big wigs.
Im not a big wig. The word is legit but if its original then thats fine. Your brain is rented so it is virtually impossible for you to process anything not established. Sorry.

 

[WeAAsles]

WeAA what stations did AA lose? The other part was in STL did AA keep the ramp mainline under the TWU

Robbed I was trying to actually find that list this morning. We had an MOU with Parker prior to the merger when he was trying to force the issue with LAA that stated if the merger happened prior to those Stations being closed, they would remain open.

It was around a dozen small cities. I’ve mentioned here before MEM being one of them because a friend of mine worked there. It had 13 clerks working there before the closure.

Yes currently (And at least I believe in the future too) TWU mainline is still staffed in STL.

 

[WeAAsles]

Robbed I’m trying to think of this just off the top of my head but there was also PHX and PHL (That some guys went back to on the preferential hiring agreement) FLL, DTW was mentioned on FB yesterday. Others that I’m sorry I just don’t have that list at the moment.

Some of those cities are staffed on your side.

 

[Racer X]

The no-displacement policy has truly limited things and has allowed the pt % to drop. But no, the pt % cap wont stay at 40%.

My fly says It’s not decided yet.
Could stay at 40%. Like current IAM CBA
Could be 40% of FT employees. ( huge improvement)
Could go above 40% but that would have to be of Ft employees to be an improvement. (Still an improvement over current language as long as it doesn’t get too far above the 40%)

 

[robbedagain]

Thx WeAA . Phx i had heard AA folks went back but at that time they cld only work AA metal . not sure how long ago it was. I knew LUS had FLL PHX n PHL. Dtw not sure. Think it was outsourced in 05 if not 02

 

[WeAAsles]

My fly says It’s not decided yet.
Could stay at 40%. Like current IAM CBA
Could be 40% of FT employees. ( huge improvement)
Could go above 40% but that would have to be of Ft employees to be an improvement. (Still an improvement over current language as long as it doesn’t get too far above the 40%)

http://local502.twuatd.org/wp-content/uploads/file/aa_FleetServiceAgreement.pdf

 

[WeAAsles]

My fly says It’s not decided yet.
Could stay at 40%. Like current IAM CBA
Could be 40% of FT employees. ( huge improvement)
Could go above 40% but that would have to be of Ft employees to be an improvement. (Still an improvement over current language as long as it doesn’t get too far above the 40%)

I’d like to see a JCBA that shrinks the number of PT positions we have here in MIA which has the largest number in the entire system on the LAA side and adds more FT positions.

The numbers at least in regards to some Hubs should be a little more evened out over time.

 

[737823]

Robbed I was trying to actually find that list this morning. We had an MOU with Parker prior to the merger when he was trying to force the issue with LAA that stated if the merger happened prior to those Stations being closed, they would remain open.

It was around a dozen small cities. I’ve mentioned here before MEM being one of them because a friend of mine worked there. It had 13 clerks working there before the closure.

Yes currently (And at least I believe in the future too) TWU mainline is still staffed in STL.

Weez wants STL to stay open so transfers out of MIA can be cleared and he will get to outbid LLCers for vacation time if they go back to STL for DOH.

Josh

 

[WeAAsles]

Weez wants STL to stay open so transfers out of MIA can be cleared and he will get to outbid LLCers for vacation time if they go back to STL for DOH.

Josh

Maybe some other time buddy?

 

[Kev3188]

Robbed I’m trying to think of this just off the top of my head but there was also PHX and PHL (That some guys went back to on the preferential hiring agreement) FLL, DTW was mentioned on FB yesterday. Others that I’m sorry I just don’t have that list at the moment.

Some of those cities are staffed on your side.

Pretty sure MSP is/was one of them.