JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA Fleet. **New and improved 2.0 version**

[PIEDMONT784]

Your airline merges with one that is primarily non-union. The number of people from pre-merger group is large enough to trigger an election, and “no union” is the result.

Your turn.

So, essentially.... you are telling me you don't work for AA in any capacity?

 

[Kev3188]

This isn’t news. It’s also irrelevant in this context.

Still waiting.

 

[PIEDMONT784]

This isn’t news. It’s also irrelevant in this context.

Still waiting.

Irrelevant? Dude, you are non-union, and don't work for AA... Did you look at the thread title?
You have been posting for 15 years with 16.407 messages in a 'union forum', and you are not a even a member of a union?

 

[Tim Nelson]

Irrelevant? Dude, you are non-union, and don't work for AA... Did you look at the thread title?
You have been posting for 15 years with 16.407 messages in a 'union forum', and you are not a even a member of a union?

Who cares? 700 posted thousands of times and wasnt a member and just manages a catering business.
Kev talks with reason and furthers topics.
My difference with kev is that it appears he leans iam regarding representation, whereas I think history tells us that they all would be contracted out if the iam sito was involved.

 

[Kev3188]

Still waiting.

 

[swamt]

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Well, It's not quite total restore from pre-BK days back in the 90's but it is a pretty decent start of the restore. I thought at one time you guys had 7 weeks Vac?

 

[NYer]

Well, It's not quite total restore from pre-BK days back in the 90's but it is a pretty decent start of the restore. I thought at one time you guys had 7 weeks Vac?

From 2001 to 2003.

 

[AANOTOK]

Irrelevant? Dude, you are non-union, and don't work for AA... Did you look at the thread title?
You have been posting for 15 years with 16.407 messages in a 'union forum', and you are not a even a member of a union?

Dude, who are you? You're obviously great at being condescending to all but W, and you have your head so far up his ass you can't even >SPIT<. Kev is one of our better posters and normally doesn't waist his time with pricks like you.
Your God like attitude has definitely been around here before...

 

[WeAAsles]

Dude, who are you? You're obviously great at being condescending to all but W, and you have your head so far up his ass you can't even >SPIT<. Kev is one of our better posters and normally doesn't waist his time with pricks like you.
Your God like attitude has definitely been around here before...

Wait a minute here AANOTOK.

Fair is fair here. Not looking for a fight but.

Who are you?

 

[AANOTOK]

Me either W, I'm done with the back and forth with you...but nice to see you come to his defense, that's what good teammates do.

I'm nobody W, you have said many times in the past via description, video, meme, and even by name (Ken) who I am.
You're more than welcome to use any of those from previous comments, or you can come up with something new.
But again, like you, I'm not gonna fight and this will be my only comment to you on the subject THAT I DIRECTED AT PIEDMONT.

I'm AANOTOK!

 

[WeAAsles]

Me either W, I'm done with the back and forth with you...but nice to see you come to his defense, that's what good teammates do.

I'm nobody W, you have said many times in the past via description, video, meme, and even by name (Ken) who I am.
You're more than welcome to use any of those from previous comments, or you can come up with something new.
But again, like you, I'm not gonna fight and this will be my only comment to you on the subject THAT I DIRECTED AT PIEDMONT.

I'm AANOTOK!

You see I always get tagged as the guy who wants to fight everyone but I’m really a complete counterpuncher. Always been a counterpuncher.

All I asked was who are you to ask who anyone is if you don’t want to say who you are? I know who you “think” the guy is and that’s why you’re reacting to him the way you are. He’s not who you think he is but I do expect that guy to be back soon too.

It’s just hilarious when someone wants to know who someone else is but they want to carry on with their own anonymity to keep there advantage.

 

[CremaDiLimone]

I was being sarcastic, when I asked what the cost was. I am sure they will want something, to get you back to pre-bankruptcy contract status.

that's the whole thing. you give parker the benefit of the doubt (leap of faith propaganda) and he's let us down. he doubled down with promising ILC contracts and now the company is backtracking on this. the facts & figures are right there for all to see.

i do believe that some of it is bargaining posturing and i never expected aa to give us the whole store...but they have taken a maximalist position on every article of scope & compensation.

parker's baby (the stock) is tanking and i wouldn't be surprised to read that buffet has been selling shares. the spread between dl stock and aa stock is increasing, where today dl is worth nearly double (market cap) than aa. if aa never bought back any shares, it's current market cap tells us the stock would be around $29-$30 a share.

- aa's dividend (3xs less than dl) is a joke compared to dl.

- aa flopped on fuel hedging. did mr. kerr believe that oil would eventually go down to $2 a barrel? degreed executives? captains of industry?? hedging would have provided massive income surprises the past few quarters...guys who throw bags for a living saw this clearly. is there some remorse and guilt where aa produced a video clip explaining why aa didn't hedge on fuel?

- the current company attitude could see a summer of discontent. the reliability and dependability of the operation may suffer and add further downward pressure on aa stock.

this brings us to the board of directors who may turn the screws on someone - they need to - to get sh!t done. i have no problem being held accountable for my work preformance...so should those collecting millions and looking to deny those who earn in the tens of thousands.

this is not america west and this is not us air. this is the world's largest airline.

 

[Kev3188]

Still waiting.

 

[WeAAsles]

that's the whole thing. you give parker the benefit of the doubt (leap of faith propaganda) and he's let us down. he doubled down with promising ILC contracts and now the company is backtracking on this. the facts & figures are right there for all to see.

i do believe that some of it is bargaining posturing and i never expected aa to give us the whole store...but they have taken a maximalist position on every article of scope & compensation.

parker's baby (the stock) is tanking and i wouldn't be surprised to read that buffet has been selling shares. the spread between dl stock and aa stock is increasing, where today dl is worth nearly double (market cap) than aa. if aa never bought back any shares, it's current market cap tells us the stock would be around $29-$30 a share.

- aa's dividend (3xs less than dl) is a joke compared to dl.

- aa flopped on fuel hedging. did mr. kerr believe that oil would eventually go down to $2 a barrel? degreed executives? captains of industry?? hedging would have provided massive income surprises the past few quarters...guys who throw bags for a living saw this clearly. is there some remorse and guilt where aa produced a video clip explaining why aa didn't hedge on fuel?

- the current company attitude could see a summer of discontent. the reliability and dependability of the operation may suffer and add further downward pressure on aa stock.

this brings us to the board of directors who may turn the screws on someone - they need to - to get sh!t done. i have no problem being held accountable for my work preformance...so should those collecting millions and looking to deny those who earn in the tens of thousands.

this is not america west and this is not us air. this is the world's largest airline.

Don’t let this go to your head but I REALLY wish we had more posters like you on here.

Bravo Crema.

 

[Kev3188]

that's the whole thing. you give parker the benefit of the doubt (leap of faith propaganda) and he's let us down. he doubled down with promising ILC contracts and now the company is backtracking on this. the facts & figures are right there for all to see....

Sometimes I think they forget about the Internet, or that we all talk to each other on the ramp.

this is not america west and this is not us air. this is the world's largest airline.

+1

It’s also not 9/12/01 or Nov. 2011.