Laptops and CS policy. Mess with those and we will fight like it's the end of the world.
JCBA Negotiations and updates for AA AMTS
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MetalMover
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Funny..Sad but true.
I hear more guys being upset about the CS policy eventually going to be contractual. Because if it is to be in the contract, then they most likely will have to live with it and no "special" deals and favors.
The other articles they could care less about.....holidays and holiday pay, vacation, sick time...PAY.....But mention the CS policy and their ears perk up like a dog hearing food put in its dish.
We still have not received Delta +7. The pilots start whining and articles are written. How about the union publish a few articles how we still do not have a contract. Spend my union dues on something with wild! Not just food and hotels for our negotiators!
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112-DWH
55-TULE
43-MIA
35-LAX
22-ORD
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TTL 267 of (alleged 350)
I guess I just wonder why so many folks want out of those stations?
And BTW, just to correct the misinformation (alternative facts), the hangars are NEVER empty.
This is a good video to use as I heard him say that either Delta "OR" United +7% will be used, "which ever is higher." I do believe Uniteds offer puts them higher than Delta at end of their contract. This video also clarify's the timing of promised +7%. Once the asso. gets the JCBA done then you guys will got to Who ever +7%. But I too think it will end up being a long wait. I am still not too sure you guys will have anything by the 2018 amendable date. There are still some very major indifferences to be worked out.
They want out of those stations Because they are former AFW guys trying to get home to Texas, and of course there are the former mechs throwing bags for AA at dfw rather then leaving theirs homes and commuting.
You are a clear indicator why dfw is such a problem child. Rather then focus on the real question you focus on something else. It's like if a 777 comes to the gate with a flight control status msg, you focus on a reading light.
You don't think we all know that AA is moving work away from dfw? Problem planes are routed away from dfw or DWH picking up planes at gate to repair them, or that checks were moved from dfw and sent to Mia and S America.
So the question is, what is dfw management doing that is so much worse then other station managers?
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How's about you put your name on the transfer list and come on down here and find out for yourself ...... or.... wait.... let me guess, you don't have enough horsepower. Whatcha got? 98, 99? PPPPhhhhh.... LOL....Or, who knows, maybe your a management guy, telling people their a "problem child" . Well, if my 30+ years producing for this company makes me that,,, then call it like you see em. Just keep on sittin there where ever it is you call home and throw stones mister about something you know nothing about.
We don't know what's going on in dfw that's why I asked. How about filling the rest of the system in on the management there, so we don't think you're all a bunch of whiners.
Typical 30 year guy, Thinks his seniority means something outside of bidding.
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You should be asking why so many people want out of DWH just across the field? Maybe you should look into what goes on with regards to overtime and holidays over there? Find out what kind of "Line Maintenance" work gets done at the overhaul station. I think you would find the answers interesting. Instead you continually have an axe to grind with DFW making the assertion that we should stop overtime so the transfer list would get called. Tell us, what station has ever done such a thing and when has the company responded in kind? You make the assertions that work has been lost from DFW due to lazy mechanics here, you think the company moved the work because they couldn't get it done here, well, we all know those kinds of assertions are ridiculous. This has never been the case ever, the company moves work to where they want it to be for a financial reason. You make the assertions that hangars are empty and guys work max overtime on nothing? C'mon man, listen to yourself, think about what your saying. THINK
We have a contract. It becomes amendable September 2018. We should not be in a rush for a jcba. Everytime we get a new contract we keep losing language. If they want they can give us the 10 holidays and doubletime. Just like the pay adjustment. But the company wants concessions in return. Wake up people it's not just about the money.
You're right I'll try and find out the answers to those questions.
Hey conehead, why do so many mechs want to leave DWH?
What goes on with regards to overtime and holidays over there?
What kind of line maint goes on at the OH station?
I do agree that turning down OT would be a bad idea and has never worked, especially protesting a contract that we on the whole voted in.
I do believe that the company moves the work to where it can get done, Miami for instance has 3 hanger bays, that's it and not much room for parts, but yet has two widebody phase checks. I think it would be much more cost efficient to have the work done in dfw because of hgr space and the parts supply all being right there in dfw.
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And if you look at Section 3 he includes us under the Railway Labor Act too.
But no changes to that Strike language. Isn't that a shame.
https://steveking.house.gov/media-c...king-re-introduces-national-right-to-work-act
But no changes to that Strike language. Isn't that a shame.
https://steveking.house.gov/media-c...king-re-introduces-national-right-to-work-act
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I believe, for instance the CBA might trump it. For instance Florida is a Right to Work state, yet the condition of AA employment requires that you have to join the union if your position is union represented. But I could be wrong regarding this legislation.
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Metal if they amend the RLA you would no longer be required to be a member of the Union or pay dues. But the Union that for awhile still exists would have to continue to represent you.
If the Union over time doesn't get enough money they wouldn't have the financial ability to be able to represent you anymore as many things whether people want to hear this or not cost money.
Do any of you on here realize how much is spent to negotiate on your behalf? So if they can't afford the Lawyers, Economists, Hotels, Food and time off to go where they need to be they would eventually just have to accept whatever it is the company is offering. Then they would lose even more people because they would say the Union is weak for bringing them back a crappy contract.
But some of your posters here I'm sure don't think they need a Union. They'll say Delta is doing just fine without one. Now imagine there are no Unions left in the airlines? No AMFA,TWU or IAM. Do you think the airlines would still pay your group really well with benefits?
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