Is USAirways hostile takeover Of AA for Real?

[BlueStar]

Blue bird or blue star,

You guys come from the same fold, bunch of newbies fishing around these waters. You haven't quite defined who YOU ARE...BUT I suspect I know.

Blue Star

If you knew who I was, I think you would be much nicer.

 

[wings396]

And laughs is what it is all about!

I'll tell you what, if US merges with AA, I will back off attacking US. If not, then your words will fall on deaf ears, pretty much like mine do now.

Either way, I must ask why the so called "attack" on US? Surely you must have a valid reason that you have failed to disclose?
Why do you give a rats arse what happens to US, or any other Airline for that matter?
Is all of this based on what you have read, or seen on the news about US and/or Parker?
I'm sure you can see where I'm going with all of this, as nobody really cares about a company that doesn't put food on their table. Based on what you have said, it makes no difference to you is US fails, or prospers by another merger, although I'm fairly certain you would prefer that US went out of business leaving thousands of employees jobless.....

 

[BlueStar]

OK, I'll bite. I think you're a Parker Puppet at CHQ or thereabouts.

Nope. Well I don't know CHQ but I don't have any strings attached to me and my nose doesn't grow.

Hint #1: I'm friendly to United States Treasury, the United States Airline industry, all employees (including management and non-union workers) and the UCC. Now that should narrow it down a lot but I'm hard to find.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

Either way, I must ask why the so called "attack" on US? Surely you must have a valid reason that you have failed to disclose?
Why do you give a rats arse what happens to US, or any other Airline for that matter?
Is all of this based on what you have read, or seen on the news about US and/or Parker?

While I can't speak for signals, I kind of care because as a semi-frequent flyer, I do not want AA to become like US. Nothing personal against US employees, but the leadership / management of US has turned a formerly small/regional kind of classy airline into a POS that it is today. AA by no means is the best carrier in the world, but it is in a league way above US.

 

[BlueStar]

While I can't speak for signals, I kind of care because as a semi-frequent flyer, I do not want AA to become like US.

Wow that is commitment. 833 posts from a guy who semi-frequently flies? No seriously, that's the reason?

AA is going to be different no matter which way this goes. If there were a merger either before or after ch.11 exit (should they exit), what is it about AMR/LLC that you feel would be important to keep the same post merger? Just curious.

 

[wings396]

While I can't speak for signals, I kind of care because as a semi-frequent flyer, I do not want AA to become like US. Nothing personal against US employees, but the leadership / management of US has turned a formerly small/regional kind of classy airline into a POS that it is today. AA by no means is the best carrier in the world, but it is in a league way above US.

Did you ever stop to think that perhaps the level of service at US along with the FF program would be brought up to the standards of AA, instead of the opposite?

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

Did you ever stop to think that perhaps the level of service at US along with the FF program would be brought up to the standards of AA, instead of the opposite?

Did Parker bring the 'level of service' of HP to US levels or did Parker downgrade the US product? Why would you think that in case of AA/AMR things would be done differently?

 

[DCAJet]

Swelbar? Really. He's a paid hack for AMR. Confirmed as a consultant. He used to be as well and bad mouthed all the union leaders, so now you people think he has a point. He's attacked labor every chance he's gotten and now he makes sense? seriously.
He personally attacks Laura Glading while being paid for by AMR. Her own company attacks her personally and that is ok with you people? What's wrong with you. Oh, he is paid by AFA as a Hawaiian board member. So AFA-hired lacky attacks APFA president--- hmm, cuz AFA is going to lose all of the USAirways people to APFA. So a union pays a hack to attack a union president. Solidarity! (note the sarcasm).

AFA is a gutless wonder. losing four airlines recently who voted them out or went belly up. what a union!

 

[DCaf]

While I can't speak for signals, I kind of care because as a semi-frequent flyer, I do not want AA to become like US. Nothing personal against US employees, but the leadership / management of US has turned a formerly small/regional kind of classy airline into a POS that it is today. AA by no means is the best carrier in the world, but it is in a league way above US.

What make US a POS? I'm curious, because I just flew UA (I'm assuming not a POS airline in your opinion) and I didn't see much difference.

 

[PITbull]

Either way, I must ask why the so called "attack" on US? Surely you must have a valid reason that you have failed to disclose?
Why do you give a rats arse what happens to US, or any other Airline for that matter?
Is all of this based on what you have read, or seen on the news about US and/or Parker?
I'm sure you can see where I'm going with all of this, as nobody really cares about a company that doesn't put food on their table. Based on what you have said, it makes no difference to you is US fails, or prospers by another merger, although I'm fairly certain you would prefer that US went out of business leaving thousands of employees jobless.....

Well, there you go. You o on and on and on and on...and say basically ZIP! You need to research who I am. Those years I gave was not because I got paid, but because I got elected to represent the f/as on the property, protect the profession and their livlihoods and struggle to maintain livable wages...they entrusted hat to me. It became a passion and then an obsession to force "balance" between the parties. The more I got to know the who was behind the curtain, the more fixated I got on expsure so that the world could see who they were. After all, USAirways was the first to use their "trump card in BK", and the domino effect followed throughout the industry.
I knew it would happen and warned everyone in every airline. Look back in 2002, 2003 postings on here....you'll get the drift.

Unless of course your part of the problem....arrogance in management.

 

[PITbull]

Nope. Well I don't know CHQ but I don't have any strings attached to me and my nose doesn't grow.

Hint #1: I'm friendly to United States Treasury, the United States Airline industry, all employees (including management and non-union workers) and the UCC. Now that should narrow it down a lot but I'm hard to find.

All this says is that you pay your taxes. Ok.

Could be from the NLRB to see what's up and what labor is thinking. Don't know, don't care.

 

[wings396]

Well, there you go. You o on and on and on and on...and say basically ZIP! You need to research who I am. Those years I gave was not because I got paid, but because I got elected to represent the f/as on the property, protect the profession and their livlihoods and struggle to maintain livable wages...they entrusted hat to me. It became a passion and then an obsession to force "balance" between the parties. The more I got to know the who was behind the curtain, the more fixated I got on expsure so that the world could see who they were. After all, USAirways was the first to use their "trump card in BK", and the domino effect followed throughout the industry.
I knew it would happen and warned everyone in every airline. Look back in 2002, 2003 postings on here....you'll get the drift.

Unless of course your part of the problem....arrogance in management.


I know who you are, but you no longer have a dog in this fight. Living in the past does nothing today. The entire industry has changed, and this merger is needed for both airlines to have long term viability against DL & UA.
FWIW, I'm far from any type of management. Just been in the industry long enough to be open minded to realize the necessary changes.

 

[dfw gen]

FrugalFlyerv2.0, on 08 June 2012 - 01:27 PM, said:

While I can't speak for signals, I kind of care because as a semi-frequent flyer, I do not want AA to become like US. Nothing personal against US employees, but the leadership / management of US has turned a formerly small/regional kind of classy airline into a POS that it is today. AA by no means is the best carrier in the world, but it is in a league way above US.

Did you ever stop to think that perhaps the level of service at US along with the FF program would be brought up to the standards of AA, instead of the opposite?


thats funny is us service is lower than aa thats sad because right now aa's service sux and i doubt you are goiing to see a rebound before it gets worst.

 

[PITbull]

I know who you are, but you no longer have a dog in this fight. Living in the past does nothing today. The entire industry has changed, and this merger is needed for both airlines to have long term viability against DL & UA.
FWIW, I'm far from any type of management. Just been in the industry long enough to be open minded to realize the necessary changes.

Well, you aren't Labor.

Bigger dosen't mean better, or more improved. Some speculative synergies don't always work. The potential works for investors long enough to get their pockets lined, and then they bail. Just like the stock market players.


History tends to repeat itself when lessons aren't learned.

I'm sure you've been long enough on this planet to understand what that means.

 

[wings396]

So in your opinion, staying independent as the smallest of the legacies is the best path for US? Within a few years DL&UA will run us out of the marketplace, causing further cuts and downsizing. I am willing to take the gamble of working for one of the big 3 instead of being the small weak kid on the block. From what I can tell both DL& UA have proven your theory of not being bigger an advantage wrong.
Kind of funny that you decided to come out of the woodwork at this time with your agenda. Keep an eye on the mail, your check from Mr Swaybar should be coming anyway now.......