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[Black Swan]

I just got back from a very good day on the golf course and seeing the city of Dallas win another championship. I come back and all hell has broken loose because I have offended IRABob's 5 fan club members. I'll leave out Chock Jockey and Captain Bob.

So, you are a registered Libertarian, huh? All that means to me is you think it's OK to smoke pot and take votes away from republicans. Well good for you, I guess you want 4 more years of Obama then, don't you.

Since I recognize the IRA as an extremist Catholic organization it makes me an athiest? You have a lot to learn Mr Big, copier sales person. I'm sorry but I get a chuckle out of your belief that selling copiers puts you in an elite status. When I was growing up in the 60's an airline pilot had a lot more status than a sales person or an union busting airways pilot.

The IRA tried to kill PM Margaret Thatcher. She stood up to these thugs you consider heroes. One of my favorites is, "The trouble with you (Bob) is that your spine does not reach your brain. My favorite: Defeat? I don't know the meaning of the word. You are a socialist in every aspect. How can you even begin to say Bob is one? He served every minute to get him in his position. You? You are after what you have never earned to start with.

I have an equally low opinion of salesmen and telemarketers as you do of pilots.
Little did you know this pilot can operate a shredder.

Have a nice day, IRABob.

Man, what a tirade. I have one question: seeing you are a staunch Republican, and I am not commenting on that- how can you then support quotas and systems that advance one group over another who has served more time in the same position? That is EXACTLY what you are after with the Nicolau Award. This is a system of quotas, that place others with much less time served, above another. And you are tired of Obama? You are a raging conservative, supposedly, until it benefits you. Then you run with anything you can get away with. If anyone is a socialist, it is you. Bob earned that spot he is in. He was hired in 73. You? You want to take what you never earned. You, are a true socialist.

 

[nic4us]

Man, what a tirade. I have one question: seeing you are a staunch Republican, and I am not commenting on that- how can you then support quotas and systems that advance one group over another who has served more time in the same position? That is EXACTLY what you are after with the Nicolau Award. This is a system of quotas, that place others with much less time served, above another. And you are tired of Obama? You are a raging conservative, supposedly, until it benefits you. Then you run with anything you can get away with. If anyone is a socialist, it is you. Bob earned that spot he is in. He was hired in 73. You? You want to take what you never earned. You, are a true socialist.

Bob did indeed earn the spot he is in, and no one is trying to take it from him. He was afforded through representation the ability to make his case before a neutral arbitrator and his spot (position and status) was retained in the decision.

Just as my, and my fellow West pilot's spots were retained as close as could be managed when combining our two list in a fair and equitable mannner.

Regardless of DOH or even LOS, Bob retained his position because it was his to retain, that is what his "seniority" held. You and your fellow usapians do not wish to keep your positions, you wish to leapfrog your "seniority" within the new company at the direct expense of the West pilots.

Republican, Libertarian, Socialist, Democrat,,,,,I could careless about your political affiliation, you steal my "spot", you are nothing more than a thief.

 

[Black Swan]

Bob did indeed earn the spot he is in, and no one is trying to take it from him. He was afforded through representation the ability to make his case before a neutral arbitrator and his spot (position and status) was retained in the decision.

Just as my, and my fellow West pilot's spots were retained as close as could be managed when combining our two list in a fair and equitable mannner.

Regardless of DOH or even LOS, Bob retained his position because it was his to retain, that is what his "seniority" held. You and your fellow usapians do not wish to keep your positions, you wish to leapfrog your "seniority" within the new company at the direct expense of the West pilots.

Republican, Libertarian, Socialist, Democrat,,,,,I could careless about your political affiliation, you steal my "spot", you are nothing more than a thief.

The Nicolau is a socialist plan. The only one on the property. There is no theft, other than the quota seekers. You are seeking quotas and slotting to achieve an unfair solution. Totally against the AMERICAN WAY. Nobody wants the west jobs. You can stay there and enjoy them your entire careers. I promise you I will NEVER bid PHX.

 

[flybynite]

Carpetbaggers

 

[nic4us]

First off ya moron I'm a registered Libertarian.

I openly and actively support Freedom & Liberty, No matter what our corrupt empire building Government says. Just remember if we did it your way we'd still be singing God Save the Queen! How do you think King George viewed George Washington? We are a nation founded by your definition of terrorists. You call the Irish Republican Army terrorist because your government told you they were. Look at 800 years of British exploitation and then decide. Boston Tea Party, Lexington & Concord, Declaration of Independence terrorist and treasonous acts one and all.

One man's terrorist is yet an others Freedom Fighter it just depends whose side you're on.

People like me? A man who believes in the US Constitution? A person who believes that rights are conferred by God and not Governments? A person who believes that When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty

So that means that you are an Atheist and a Communist??? Or did I miss something?


What's the difference between God and pilots? God doesn't think he's a pilot.



“They have nothing in their whole imperial arsenal that can break the spirit of one Irishman who doesn't want to be broken.” - Bobby Sands, Member of Parliament, Born March 9, 1954 – May 5,1981

Terrorists? I think not!

Sparrow,

I always read your post with interest in your point of view, but this one I have to ask some questions about to fully understand your viewpoint.

First, the freedom fighter vs. terrorist thing. Are you saying the the ends justify the means? It sure sounds that way.

The God does not think he is a pilot ?joke?.....Almost my entire education came from Catholics schools, including a Catholic university, but I am not a very religious man. However, some time ago I had an epiphany into the nature of God's identity. It is actually very deep, and really cannot be expresed on this board, but it goes something like this. God is actually every human ever. God is the entire culmination of human experience in all space time, one person at a time. You see a rock star, you see God, you see a starving child, you see God, you see a pilot, you see God.

Perhaps it is like you said and it is just my extreme pilot ego thinking I am God, but living with this belief, I also see God in every individual I encounter.

That is why I have never had any trouble walking on a ramp without a SIDA badge.

 

[nic4us]

The Nicolau is a socialist plan. The only one on the property. There is no theft, other than the quota seekers. You are seeking quotas and slotting to achieve an unfair solution. Totally against the AMERICAN WAY. Nobody wants the west jobs. You can stay there and enjoy them your entire careers. I promise you I will NEVER bid PHX.

Too late...PHX...or rather Tempe....already bid for you, and Nicolau governs what is "fair".

 

[SparrowHawk]

Sparrow,

I always read your post with interest in your point of view, but this one I have to ask some questions about to fully understand your viewpoint.

First, the freedom fighter vs. terrorist thing. Are you saying the the ends justify the means? It sure sounds that way.

I think in certain situations the end does justify the means. The "Troubles" in Ireland go back 800 years. I've often said that perception is reality and for many in the Irish Republic and here in the US, The British occupation of Northern Ireland is akin to US Military bases on the Arabian Peninsula are to many Muslims.

By virtue of my Mom remarrying after my father passed some 40 years ago I've had the extreme pleasure to be surrounded by about 200 Irish "Step-Relatives". "Pop" C. fought in the Easter Rising and held his brother in his arms as he died from wounds sustained in the fight for Irish Freedom. Every week money went to Noraid to support the struggle. We all got together when Bobby Sands passed. Very sad. Later my Uncle Sean and Maureen would visit relatives still in Ireland some were in the North. During one visit they were stopped by the RUC (Royal Ulster Constabulary) yanked for their rental car & thrown onto the ground at gunpoint, every suitcase removed and thrown onto the pavement. The RUC searched their belongings and the very minute they uncovered the US Passports, they put away their weapons, repacked the car and let them go. I almost got divorced because I forbid the wife from watching the Royal Wedding between Charles & Dianna. The car had a 26+6=1 sticker front and back. When people fear their government there is tyranny, When Government fears the people there is Liberty. I stand with those who stand for Liberty no matter the cost. I have never been totally comfortable with the tactics used. However the Provo's very nearly drove the Brits out and would have if Sinn Fein hadn't negotiated the treaty and got the Provo's to decommission. It's funny how people see the same words so differently. Another poster stated "The IRA tried to kill Margaret Thatcher" & my first reaction was "I know to bad they didn't". Apparently he thought it was a bad thing. I saw it as striking a blow for Liberty. If your King George in 1777, Valley Forge is a terrorist training ground. If you're the 470 Dutch Settlers who staved off an attack by 12,000 Zulu warriors without anyone even wounded you might think (As they did) that their victory at Blood River was a sign from God that the land was theirs

The God does not think he is a pilot ?joke?.....Almost my entire education came from Catholics schools, including a Catholic university, but I am not a very religious man. However, some time ago I had an epiphany into the nature of God's identity. It is actually very deep, and really cannot be expresed on this board, but it goes something like this. God is actually every human ever. God is the entire culmination of human experience in all space time, one person at a time. You see a rock star, you see God, you see a starving child, you see God, you see a pilot, you see God.

Perhaps it is like you said and it is just my extreme pilot ego thinking I am God, but living with this belief, I also see God in every individual I encounter.

Sounds like they were Jesuit schools! You know the saying about "one bad apple spoils the whole basket"? This thread points that out. Over the years I've met and chatted up many pilots and found them on balance to be damn fine people. You don't have any trouble on the ramp because of all of that good Jesuit Training. Mine was Southern Baptist. CactusSnappyMcScrathy apparently missed the day in Sunday School where they taught the verse in Matthew that says "Whatsoever you do unto the least of my brethren you do unto me also".

That is why I have never had any trouble walking on a ramp without a SIDA badge.

 

[leprechaun]

Okay...I guess this thread is not a joke. At least to ole "Lucky Charms", who has obviously been eating his "magically delicious" marshmellow orange stars and green clovers. Hey Leprechaun, there is this poster here named 767one, he likes to fly to Dublin. I suggest you get on one of his flights, sit your junior arse down in a quaint little pub, leave the sugar coated cereal behind and discover a couple of pints Guinness. If you do not like it, there is also this miracle of Irish art and ingenuity called Jameson.

Junior to some, but not you with only 25 years, and Guinness and Jameson will be just fine. I prefer Galway thou.

 

[leprechaun]

The more you try to explain your liberal views the more you lose me. You actually support a terrorist organization like the IRA? I remember looking for a trash can at a train station in Liverpool, UK. I was told about the Irish terrorists would hide bombs in waste containers. Guess who their targets were.... Civilians. A terrorist is a terrorist, Muslim or Christian.

I don't associate with people like you in my private life and I don't care to speak with you outside a public forum. From what I have read on these boards I am beginning to think there is a lot more to this East-West divide than just US Airways.

How would you react if the US was occupied by a foreign country?

Were our forefathers terrorists?

 

[SparrowHawk]

How would you react if the US was occupied by a foreign country?

 

[28L_or_10R?]

Everyone seems to have forgotten that this thread dealt with Itchy McSnitchy (snap this) being a snitch.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Everyone seems to have forgotten that this thread dealt with Itchy McSnitchy (snap this) being a snitch.

Yes, however his responses to the other topics do explain some things. Like perhaps why he had these issues in the first place?

 

[CallawayGolf]

The God does not think he is a pilot ?joke?.....Almost my entire education came from Catholics schools, including a Catholic university, but I am not a very religious man. However, some time ago I had an epiphany into the nature of God's identity. It is actually very deep, and really cannot be expresed on this board, but it goes something like this. God is actually every human ever. God is the entire culmination of human experience in all space time, one person at a time. You see a rock star, you see God, you see a starving child, you see God, you see a pilot, you see God.

Perhaps it is like you said and it is just my extreme pilot ego thinking I am God, but living with this belief, I also see God in every individual I encounter.

Nic,

Are you going to trust your own mind to come to the knowledge of the truth about the existence of God; the origins of time, space, matter and energy; and the eternal consequences that come from what we know and believe about God? Did you learn about any other facts by just having a personal epiphany? Did you learn about aeronautical principles and the safe operation of a jet aircraft by just coming to the conclusion on your own of how these things should be, or did you rely on trusted and proven resources grounded in facts and reasoning to bring you to a point of having a true knowledge of your profession? Did you learn English or mathematics by just thinking about how language and numbers ought to work? Real truth is discovered not invented.

We have a trusted and proven resource to know about God - the Bible (your Catholic Bible will work less the Apocryphal books). He is the Author who caused to be written and to be preserved so that all will have an opportunity to know Him. For thousands of years hard-hearted mankind has tried to completely destroy God’s word or to prove it to be of fallible earthly origins, but every attempt at doing so has utterly failed. The Bible stands strong and unscathed from every attack that has been directed towards it, even today as the baseless attacks continue. And yet, the more that man learns about cosmology, biology, geology, astronomy, anatomy, genealogy, archeology, and every other field and discipline of study, the more we realize just how accurate, perfect and correct God’s word is and has been, unmodified for two thousand years or more for the Old Testament.

Today it is not the Christians who are pinned against the wall by the truth; it is rather the atheistic scientists who have to continually revise their findings, hypothesis, and publications to maintain the facade that science can ever somehow explain the truths about God and His creation away by using infinitesimally small probabilities and utter logical absurdities to fool the uninformed and naive into thinking that life can exist absent a Creator and Sustainer of the universe.

I know about that position because I spent more than half my life in an unbelieving state. I opposed God at every turn and felt that I was justified because “science was on my side”. That all changed when I set out to prove (at least to myself) that the Bible was wrong and that there really was no God. The truth I discovered (not invented or imagined, but real, verifiable truth), was that God Is and that He has proven Himself to be Faithful and True - nothing like what my mind would have imagined Him to be.

I hope you will seek to know for absolute certain in your life whether God is the One as I have described Him to be or the one you decided upon after your personal epiphany experience.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Incredible arrogance befitting a Tempe suit.

You can no more tell anyone else who their 'God' should be, than you can fit a camel through the eye of a needle.

 

[CallawayGolf]

Incredible arrogance befitting a Tempe suit.

You can no more tell anyone else who their 'God' should be, than you can fit a camel through the eye of a needle.

I'll actually agree with you. No one can tell someone else to accept God. It is up to each individual to personally accept or reject the truth in their own lives and then to accept the consequences for that choice. However, having a choice doesn't mean each person can invent their own truth on any subject and most certainly not in the realm of the divine and eternity. The truth is discoverable and there can really only be one correct answer to any of the following:
Either there is a God or there isn't
Either the Universe if infinite or it is finite
Either time, space, matter and energy had a beginning or they have always existed
Either creation or evolution is true, but not both
Either the origin of life is explained by accident, chance, random biochemical processes or it is explained by an intelligent Creator

Here are a few quotes from atheistic scientists:

One only has to contemplate the magnitude of this task [evolution] to concede that spontaneous generation of a living organisms is impossible; yet, I choose to believe that which I know to be impossible rather than accept the unthinkable, special Creation.

– Dr. George Wald, Professor of Biology, Harvard

When it comes to the origin of life there are only two possibilities: Creation or spontaneous generation. There is no third way. Spontaneous generation was disproved one hundred years ago, but that leads us to only one other conclusion, that of supernatural creation. We cannot accept that on philosophical grounds, therefore, we chose to believe the impossible: That life arose spontaneously by chance!

- George Wald, Harvard University biochemist & Nobel Laureate (1954)

The possibility of life arising by chance is about the same as the probability that a tornado sweeping through a junkyard could assemble a 747 from the contents therein

. – Sir Fredric Hoyle, Evolution from Space

The scientist’s pursuit of the past ends in the moment of Creation [First Cause]. We cannot get past that to answer any questions. This is an exceedingly strange development; unexpected by all but the theologians. They have always accepted the words of the Bible: ‘In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth.’ For the scientist who has lived by his faith in evolution and reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance, he is about to conquer the highest peak, and as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.

- Robert Jastrow, Founder NASA’s Goddard Space Institute