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HMMM West Chester area???????
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Tim Nelson
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Tim,
This is my story. I am a furloughed east employee from a westcoast station. After my furlough, I was hired by America west after the merger was anounced. So, here I sit, after all this time and all those iam Dues, still an America West employee......no, wait a minute....!!! We are now Usair again, and I am working my own airplanes again....and not as an outsourced station I might add. Wow I must have my 33 yrs back....No you idiot...You voted down the TA that gave you back that in 4 mos not even upon signing. NOT EVEN IMMEDIATELY>>>>BS. How does a union who represents you even let it get this complicated? If there was no change of control, then why, do I have 2 yrs seniority with the same company/ same union? If there was no change in control then I have 33 yrs with the same company that layed me off and I again work for..Changing my company ID number doesn't mean I worked for this company any less. Someone put me in the same room with the Arbitrator as a perfect example of being a COC and give east their monies and Transition the west so we can get on with this. Finally, I'm convinced.... No word from the iam about any furthur discussions leads me to believe there isn't any. If there isn't any now, then I will wait till the IBEW gets in knowing I have nothing to lose by changing Unions. Hell, they might even acknowledge that I have been around here for a long time. IBEW
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Tim,
This is my story. I am a furloughed east employee from a westcoast station. After my furlough, I was hired by America west after the merger was anounced. So, here I sit, after all this time and all those iam Dues, still an America West employee......no, wait a minute....!!! We are now Usair again, and I am working my own airplanes again....and not as an outsourced station I might add. Wow I must have my 33 yrs back....No you idiot...You voted down the TA that gave you back that in 4 mos not even upon signing. NOT EVEN IMMEDIATELY>>>>BS. How does a union who represents you even let it get this complicated? If there was no change of control, then why, do I have 2 yrs seniority with the same company/ same union? If there was no change in control then I have 33 yrs with the same company that layed me off and I again work for..Changing my company ID number doesn't mean I worked for this company any less. Someone put me in the same room with the Arbitrator as a perfect example of being a COC and give east their monies and Transition the west so we can get on with this. Finally, I'm convinced.... No word from the iam about any furthur discussions leads me to believe there isn't any. If there isn't any now, then I will wait till the IBEW gets in knowing I have nothing to lose by changing Unions. Hell, they might even acknowledge that I have been around here for a long time. IBEW
Mike
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HMMM West Chester area???????
Close, Delco!
GoldenRam from Greek Mythology and 94 the year my daughter was born.
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For the 11th time, GoldenRam94, please stay focused and objective and answer the question for the 11th time, i.e., 'exactly what is it that workers will lose if they vote in the IBEW and why? Please grace us with the answer to this question. You have utterly failed to say anything to this audience to back up your 'outlandish' opinion that is only backed up with your IAM support. Then, you resort to personal attacks against folks who have not been convicted of anything. FWIW: there are laws to protect union members. Such laws include a 13 year bar against individuals who are convicted of felony and serious misdeamers.
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My understanding [although not confirmed] is that the IAM has removed the PHL 1776 Local Prez of his duties. This was apparently done without Local involvement. The facts are sketchy at this point but that is the word I received a short time ago. Any confirmation, please respond here.
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Not yet, The rumor is the letter is in the mail. The pres. is being charged with
''job abandonment'', when he walked out of last months' meeting. The power's that
be_________(insert names here) are supposedly sending the 1776 pres a letter
informing him of the charges and calling for him to step down. WAKE THE &*!* UP !!
They are not bringing it before the members that he represents, thier doing this
completely on thier own, without the memberships' consent. The IAM is stating he
should have remained in the hall when the 200+ members walked out. He followed
and led the membership, now he's kicked to the curb because they do not like his
tactics. Well, what were his tatics.....he listened to the membership and demanded
they be heard and now Canale, Brickner and others say, ''silence'' how dare you
question us !!! Phl needs to step up...screw the IAM, now they've made this personel.
They told Phl listen to us...We do not need to listen to you. Our pres. spoke up against
this TA and has always listened to his membership and not the ''power's that be''.
Sign a card for change...Phl sign a card for the one guy at the IAM that listened to you
and now is asked to leave.
Thanks
7th post...and counting...off topic. keep up your average....
Not yet, The rumor is the letter is in the mail. The pres. is being charged with
''job abandonment'', when he walked out of last months' meeting. The power's that
be_________(insert names here) are supposedly sending the 1776 pres a letter
informing him of the charges and calling for him to step down. WAKE THE &*!* UP !!
They are not bringing it before the members that he represents, thier doing this
completely on thier own, without the memberships' consent. The IAM is stating he
should have remained in the hall when the 200+ members walked out. He followed
and led the membership, now he's kicked to the curb because they do not like his
tactics. Well, what were his tatics.....he listened to the membership and demanded
they be heard and now Canale, Brickner and others say, ''silence'' how dare you
question us !!! Phl needs to step up...screw the IAM, now they've made this personel.
They told Phl listen to us...We do not need to listen to you. Our pres. spoke up against
this TA and has always listened to his membership and not the ''power's that be''.
Sign a card for change...Phl sign a card for the one guy at the IAM that listened to you
and now is asked to leave.
Thanks
7th post...and counting...off topic. keep up your average....
Tim Nelson
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"IBEW is not conducting an organizing campaign..." Roach of the I AM Management union.
Somebody forgot to tell Roach that the letter has no teeth. The IBEW organizing campaign is alive and kicking more now than ever. It is being fueled by the passions of fleet service to gain representation and is committee driven. Believe what you want 700, no big deal to me.
Call your boys in CLT and see if the IBEW campaign stopped.
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Im not surprised. The IAM makes all officer appointments to castrated men. Now we learn that they remove guys that stand up against them. This is nothing new. Canale should be removed for not listening to his members. Only 3% of PHL agreed with Canale that the contract was a good one. When PHL gave him the mandate to take back to Hemmingway, he instead turned his back like he always does and refused to recognize the rejection as a mandate towards the company, and he redirected the rejection away from the inequitable contract the company signed and said, "this was a vote for the change of control." I pity the person who stands up and runs for the Local Prez job in PHL, or the person who gets annointed the job.
These are the exact actions that should make everyone sign an IBEW card. Regardless of where someone stands. Things go from worse to worse with the IAM. PHL has 1500 signed cards, they should now have 1800 given this act of union busting by the United Airline board member.
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700, i realize you are trying to 'bait me' to tell you everything that is and will happen. Although I can only go by who said what, rest assured you only know about 10% of this subject area. I'm just a small player in this but based on what little I know, I am not concerned about the letter.
Have you been involved in conference calls? personal calls? etc? Or are you getting your information from Roach?
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Im not saying you are stupid.
Just saying that these are the things that these unions know.
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They can only do this if no one challenges them I say we do the same thing as last time and fill the hall up again and see if they try to stop him from doing his responsibilities! Lets get everyone at phl and put on the white vote IBEW shirts and show them they can't function without us! This union is so arragont that they think they don't have to work for us. I say we should start looking for lawyers that will help us start a suit for misrepresentation! They haven't one time done what we have paid them to do. All they do is spend our dues on trips or conventions. I will do everything I can to get them out! The main thing is to have someone to replace them. That is why we must show the IBEW we will be heard and we are very interested in them. The time to change is here we must address and we can be a light for the rest of the industry. Lets make this a career again. Also to let anyone who wants to know we are definatly moving forward. Vote IBEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just to let evreyone know, the IBEW will be sending reps back into Phl all day Thur., beginning
down at ''F'' Terminal and moving all day...ending up at the time clock at Catering. This to show PHL the weight the ''letter'' holds. Also, personally to show the IAM that they may send a letter to our ''elected'' not ''appointed'' president at 1776 and tell him get out, but we, the members of 1776,
will have our say. We will also be at the next meeting in Nov. I believe it is on the 13th due to an election day on the 6th....I will find out for sure.
Remember the IBEW will be in PHL tomorrow all day....................The IBEW is also scheduled to go to PHX next week along with CLT.
Thanks
down at ''F'' Terminal and moving all day...ending up at the time clock at Catering. This to show PHL the weight the ''letter'' holds. Also, personally to show the IAM that they may send a letter to our ''elected'' not ''appointed'' president at 1776 and tell him get out, but we, the members of 1776,
will have our say. We will also be at the next meeting in Nov. I believe it is on the 13th due to an election day on the 6th....I will find out for sure.
Remember the IBEW will be in PHL tomorrow all day....................The IBEW is also scheduled to go to PHX next week along with CLT.
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