IAM Withdraws NMB Election Application

[metopower]

If the IAM isn't afraid to do an investigation, but the company cheerleaders are, what does that tell you?...

Absolutely nothing

 

[700UW]

so the IAM just threw in the towel because they didn't want to wait for a vote count?

uh huh.


 
somehow we didn't expect frick and frack to part ways at this point.

What vote count?
 
There wasnt a vote and we shall see what happens after the truth comes out, but we already know DL FAs on SAFA and others committed computer fraud using DL Employee #s of pro union DL FAs, and there was a computer trail left.
 
DL FAs have contacted HR, the IAM and the NMB, the truth and facts will come out.

 

[700UW]

If the IAM isn't afraid to do an investigation, but the company cheerleaders are, what does that tell you?...

You know what they say, where there is smoke, there is fire.

 

[WorldTraveler]

If the IAM isn't afraid to do an investigation, but the company cheerleaders are, what does that tell you?...

it says that neither you or they understand what I have said.

for the 17th time - for the hard of comprehension - there will not be ONE investigation.

if the IAM wants to investigate why it screwed up, then they will have to.

if DL wants to figure out how its employees' employee numbers and phone numbers got in IAM hands, they will do that investigation.

SEPARATELY.

The NMB doesn't care. The IAM cancelled the card drive before an investigation could be launched.
 

btw, it's amazing how you have reduced to a blubbering mouthpiece that takes the side of any position that is against me. After years of trying unsuccessfully argue against me on issues from one end of the aviation industry to another, you just hide out with the side that is most opposed to me even if it is as wrong as you were individually.

at least you, Kevin, and 698 will go down in flames together.

Enjoy the ride. The afterburner switch is, well, you'll figure it out.
 

What vote count?

There wasnt a vote and we shall see what happens after the truth comes out, but we already know DL FAs on SAFA and others committed computer fraud using DL Employee #s of pro union DL FAs, and there was a computer trail left.

DL FAs have contacted HR, the IAM and the NMB, the truth and facts will come out.

duh.

if there were enough valid cards, then there would have been a vote.

If there were not enough valid cards, then the NMB would be asking the IAM to explain why they turned in over 2000 invalid cards - at least 20% of the required number for a vote.

Yes, Einstein, the NMB is not going to be fooled by anyone.

and unlike you and your tagalong friend, when a union dumps 12K cards on the NMB and a huge number of them turn out to be invalid, they aren't asking the neighbors on 5th and Main for a reason.

They are asking the party that submitted the application.

and yes, the whole reason why the NMB looked as closely as it did is because there were many DL FAs who already contacted the NMB and said the IAM held fraudulent cards.

 

[BABABOOY]

.....and we all know that if the NMB didn't give the IAM a heads up, then
we would be hearing about charges against the IAM for a fraudulent card
drive.  (not the first time a Union has been accused of this) 
and anyone with half a brain knows that someone leaked this info to the IAM
to save face.  The IAM dodged a big one here.  Thanks to the NMB

 

[BABABOOY]

 DL FAs on SAFA and others committed computer fraud using DL Employee #s of pro union DL FAs, and there was a computer trail left.
 
 

 
Do you even know what you are regurgitating from the WC site?
do you even know what SAFA is ?
 
ONE Delta F/A wrote a STATEMENT on FB to EXPOSE the INEPT, UNSECURED and BOGUS
SURVEY the IAM was putting out. 
Was it smart? no,
but it is a FAR REACH to blame her for the ENTIRE FAILED, BOGUS,INEPT campaign that
was such a failure for the IAM.
AGAIN look in the mirror.  
 
why did the IAM put such an AMATEUR survey out?  Something a grade schooler would put out.
again the house of cards the IAM has been building at Delta is falling fast. 

 

[Kev3188]

no, I have said INVESTIGATIONS are appropriate.

Good. Then we agree. Not sure why you just couldn't say that earlier.

This is where I stand on the subject.

That's a nice comfy nest you've made for yourself. I sincerely would like to have heard that we at least shared a shred of common ground here, but so be it.

...And not a single word on your fellow F/A's "call to arms?"
 
 

Kevin I stand with you.

Thanks, man!
 
 

If the IAM isn't afraid to do an investigation, but the company cheerleaders are, what does that tell you?...

**A lot**
 
 

What vote count?
 
There wasnt a vote and we shall see what happens after the truth comes out, but we already know DL FAs on SAFA and others committed computer fraud using DL Employee #s of pro union DL FAs, and there was a computer trail left.
 
DL FAs have contacted HR, the IAM and the NMB, the truth and facts will come out.

As they should...
 
 

at least you, Kevin, and 698 will go down in flames together.

Enjoy the ride. The afterburner switch is, well, you'll figure it out.

Whatever.

 

[Kev3188]

Do you even know what you are regurgitating from the WC site?
do you even know what SAFA is ?
 
ONE Delta F/A wrote a STATEMENT on FB to EXPOSE the INEPT, UNSECURED and BOGUS
SURVEY the IAM was putting out. 
Was it smart? no, but it is a FAR REACH to blame her for the ENTIRE BOGUS INEPT campaign that
was such a failure for the IAM.
AGAIN look in the mirror.

No, this employee (at least tacitly) encouraged others to hack an IAM survey using our coworkers names & PPR's. That's a HUGE f**king deal to me, even if you can't be bothered.

Oh, and before anyone says it, if it was a "pro" person doing it, I'd say the same thing.

There are lines you simply don't cross, and this lady high hurdled a few of 'em...

 

[WorldTraveler]

but it was ok for IAM supporters, even DL employees, to pass DL FAs' employee numbers and phone numbers to the IAM and that wasn't a missile launch and not just a high hurdle in your mind?

Too bad I didn't try to see if my employee number worked.

none of it is "right"... but until you and others are willing to admit that the IAM and its supporters blew thru things that not only weren't 'right' but were illegal, then you probably won't find much support here or anywhere else.

and I've given you the right to launch an investigation pages ago.

Can you admit that the IAM screwed up in its strategies, including creating a strategy that involved using DL employee numbers for access?

 

[townpete]

Common sense tells me that IAM got a heads up before hand that their cards were shady.

Why was all of sudden all the IAM daily propaganda mailings ground to an abrupt halt?

Then we get a bizzaro claim a few days prior about some hacked survey that they themselves put out. A claim that was so obviousl full of crap, you could see right through it.

They choose to get out in front of a total PR disaster and pull their petition as a threat thumbs down would have been disastrous to their activist base.

Seems like all the howling about fraud, etc should be coming straight from IAM, and yet they are silent. One would think if they are convinced they have been wronged, they would take the offensive position. However they seem to be hunkered in a defensive position.

What does that tell you?

 

[Kev3188]

One would think if they are convinced they have been wronged, they would take the offensive position. However they seem to be hunkered in a defensive position.

What does that tell you?

It tells me Hell has frozen over, because on this very specific point, we agree. The silence is deafening.

...And yet, not one "anti" on this thread can bring themselves to dare stand with me and call for an investigation of all involved parties.

...Not one "anti" on this thread has the courage to condemn KLJ's "call to arms."

Ya know, it's not like anyone will confuse any of you as being labor supporters.

But they would see that regardless of our respective stances on representation we all agree on accountability and transparency.

Telling indeed.

 

[WorldTraveler]

glad to know you don't label me as "anti" since I have indeed called for investigationS including how DL employee numbers and phone numbers were given to the IAM.

 

[Kev3188]

Fair enough:
 
"Anti & WT."
 
There. You get your own sub-category.
 
It's a red letter day.
 
Carry on.

 

[WorldTraveler]

as do you.

it's called "pathologically paranoid anti-company"

 

[townpete]

It tells me Hell has frozen over, because on this very specific point, we agree. The silence is deafening....And yet, not one "anti" on this thread can bring themselves to dare stand with me and call for an investigation of all involved parties....Not one "anti" on this thread has the courage to condemn KLJ's "call to arms."Ya know, it's not like anyone will confuse any of you as being labor supporters.But they would see that regardless of our respective stances on representation we all agree on accountability and transparency.Telling indeed.

Honestly you should be pounding IAM to initiate the investigation as they are the ones most harmed. They made this nefarious claim so it stands to reason if they have been truly wronged, they need to be the ones to kick it off.

Otherwise all these wild accusations are just that. Wild.